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\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u6b22\u8fce\u6536\u542c\u300a\u6797\u660e\u73e0\u535a\u5ba2\u300b\u3002\u4eca\u5929\u6211\u5750\u5728\u739b\u5409\u00b7\u54c8\u59c6\u6797\u7684\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u91cc\u3002\u6211\u5f88\u9ad8\u5174\u5411\u5927\u5bb6\u4ecb\u7ecd\u8fd9\u4f4d\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u739b\u5409\u00b7\u54c8\u59c6\u6797\uff0c\u4ee5\u53ca\u5979\u7684\u597d\u670b\u53cb\u517c\u827a\u672f\u8bc4\u8bba\u5bb6\uff0c\u8def\u6613\u838e\u00b7\u5df4\u514b\u3002\u739b\u5409\uff0c\u8bf7\u4f60\u7a0d\u5fae\u4ecb\u7ecd\u4e00\u4e0b\u81ea\u5df1\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u6211\u559c\u6b22\u7b11\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u6211\u77e5\u9053\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u4f60\u77e5\u9053\u3002\u56e0\u4e3a\u6211\u5bf9\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u548c\u5384\u8fd0\u4e00\u76f4\u5904\u4e8e\u4e00\u79cd\u6c38\u4e45\u7684\u6000\u7591\u72b6\u6001\u3002\u8fd9\u5f88\u5947\u602a\u3002\u4f60\u53ef\u80fd\u4f1a\u5728\u665a\u4e0a\u516d\u70b9\u559d\u4e00\u676f\u5a01\u58eb\u5fcc\uff0c\u89c9\u5f97\u4eca\u5929\u5728\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u5ea6\u8fc7\u4e86\u7f8e\u597d\u7684\u4e00\u5929\uff0c\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5929\u65e9\u4e0a\u770b\u5b83\u5374\u89c9\u5f97\u4e00\u65e0\u662f\u5904\u3002\u7136\u540e\u4f60\u53ef\u80fd\u4f1a\u5728\u665a\u4e0a\u516d\u70b9\u559d\u4e00\u676f\u5a01\u58eb\u5fcc\uff0c\u89c9\u5f97\u81ea\u5df1\u4e00\u5929\u90fd\u5728\u505a\u65e0\u7528\u7684\u4e8b\u60c5\u3002\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5929\u65e9\u4e0a\u770b\uff0c\u5374\u53d1\u73b0\u8fd8\u4e0d\u9519\u3002\u5c31\u662f\u8bf4\uff0c\u6ca1\u6709\u4efb\u4f55\u89c4\u5219\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u56e0\u4e3a\u6bcf\u6b21\u4f60\u770b\u4e00\u4ef6\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u4f60\u7684\u611f\u89c9\u90fd\u4e0d\u4e00\u6837\u3002\u6bcf\u4e2a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u5728\u5b8c\u6210\u4f5c\u54c1\u540e\uff0c\u90fd\u9700\u8981\u4e00\u6bb5\u65f6\u95f4\u56de\u5230\u4f5c\u54c1\u4e2d\uff0c\u7ed9\u4e88\u4e00\u4e2a\u5ba2\u89c2\u7684\u8bc4\u4ef7\u3002\u5bf9\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u5b8c\u5168\u6b63\u786e\u3002\u955c\u5b50\u975e\u5e38\u6709\u7528\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u5f53\u6211\u5b9e\u9645\u5728\u521b\u4f5c\u65f6\uff0c\u6574\u4e2a\u8fc7\u7a0b\u662f\u975e\u5e38\u4e3b\u89c2\u7684\u3002\u4f46\u5f53\u4f60\u770b\u955c\u5b50\u4e2d\u7684\u53cd\u5c04\u65f6\uff0c\u90a3\u662f\u5ba2\u89c2\u7684\u3002\u4f60\u53ef\u4ee5\u5224\u65ad\u4f60\u662f\u5426\u753b\u5f97\u5bf9\uff0c\u6bd4\u5982\u8033\u6735\u662f\u5426\u957f\u5728\u4e86\u773c\u775b\u4e0a\u4e4b\u7c7b\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u90a3\u4e48\u5f53\u4f60\u770b\u4f60\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u65f6\uff0c\u4f60\u662f\u770b\u955c\u5b50\u7684\u53cd\u5c04\u8fd8\u662f\u770b\u4f5c\u54c1\u672c\u8eab\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u6211\u770b\u4f5c\u54c1\u672c\u8eab\u548c\u955c\u5b50\u7684\u53cd\u5c04\uff0c\u4e24\u8005\u90fd\u770b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u54e6\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u6765\u8c08\u8c08\u4f60\u5427\uff0cLouisa\u3002\u4f60\u662f\u827a\u672f\u8bc4\u8bba\u5bb6\u3002\u4f60\u662f\u600e\u4e48\u5f00\u59cb\u7684\uff1f\u7136\u540e\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u4f60\u6d89\u53ca\u5230\u4e86\u827a\u672f\u548c\u793e\u4f1a\u95ee\u9898\uff0c\u6bd4\u5982\u6982\u5ff5\u827a\u672f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>:\u00a0 \u6211\u662f\u4e00\u540d\u827a\u672f\u8bb0\u8005\uff0c\u662f\u300a\u827a\u672f\u62a5\u300b\u7684\u5f53\u4ee3\u827a\u672f\u8bb0\u8005\u3002\u6211\u4e5f\u4e3a\u5404\u79cd\u4e0d\u540c\u7684\u4eba\u5de5\u4f5c\uff0c\u6bd4\u5982BBC\u3002\u6211\u66fe\u7ecf\u4e3aBBC\u4e3b\u6301\u4e00\u4e2a\u5e7f\u64ad\u8282\u76ee\uff0c\u73b0\u5728\u4ecd\u7136\u505a\u5f88\u591a\u4e8b\u60c5\u3002\u6211\u5f88\u5feb\u5c31\u610f\u8bc6\u5230\u6211\u65e0\u6cd5\u6210\u4e3a\u4e00\u540d\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u6211\u6ca1\u6709\u4efb\u4f55\u6709\u8da3\u7684\u4e1c\u897f\u53ef\u505a\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u4f46\u4f60\u5b66\u4e60\u8fc7\u827a\u672f\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>:\u00a0 \u6211\u5728\u5927\u5b66\u5b66\u4e60\u8fc7\u827a\u672f\u3002\u6211\u53bb\u4e86\u5251\u6865\u5927\u5b66\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u53bb\u4e86\u8003\u9676\u5c14\u827a\u672f\u5b66\u9662\uff0c\u6211\u77e5\u9053\u6211\u7231\u827a\u672f\uff0c\u6211\u7231\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u4e0d\u4f1a\u521b\u9020\u4efb\u4f55\u6709\u8da3\u7684\u4e1c\u897f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u4f46\u4f60\u4e0d\u60f3\u6210\u4e3a\u4e00\u540d\u827a\u672f\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>:\u00a0 \u5176\u5b9e\u6211\u6709\u827a\u672f\u53f2\u5b66\u5bb6\u7684\u8d44\u683c\u8bc1\u4e66\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u771f\u6b63\u559c\u6b22\u7684\u662f\u4e0e\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u89c1\u9762\uff0c\u8c08\u8bba\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u89c2\u5bdf\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u5199\u5173\u4e8e\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u6587\u7ae0\u3002\u4f5c\u4e3a\u4e00\u540d\u5b66\u8005\uff0c\u6211\u7684\u6ce8\u610f\u529b\u548c\u8010\u5fc3\u5f88\u4f4e\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u8fd9\u5bf9\u6211\u6765\u8bf4\u4ece\u672a\u771f\u6b63\u5408\u9002\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u975e\u5e38\u5e78\u8fd0\uff0c\u8fd9\u51e0\u5341\u5e74\u6765\u6211\u4e00\u76f4\u5728\u4e0e\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u89c1\u9762\u3001\u91c7\u8bbf\u3001\u4ea4\u8c08\u3002\u5f53\u7136\uff0c\u793e\u4f1a\u3001\u7ecf\u6d4e\u3001\u653f\u6cbb\u95ee\u9898\u4e5f\u662f\u827a\u672f\u7684\u4e00\u90e8\u5206\u3002\u827a\u672f\u662f\u5173\u4e8e\u4e16\u754c\u7684\u3002\u6709\u65f6\u5019\u8c08\u8bba\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4e8b\u60c5\u662f\u5f88\u91cd\u8981\u7684\uff0c\u6709\u65f6\u5019\u5219\u4e0d\u662f\u3002\u8fd9\u53d6\u51b3\u4e8e\u827a\u672f\uff0c\u53d6\u51b3\u4e8e\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u3002\u4f46\u827a\u672f\u662f\u6211\u4eec\u751f\u6d3b\u4e16\u754c\u7684\u4e00\u90e8\u5206\uff0c\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u4e5f\u662f\u6211\u4eec\u751f\u6d3b\u4e16\u754c\u7684\u4e00\u90e8\u5206\u3002Maggie\u521b\u4f5c\u4e86\u5f88\u591a\u975e\u51e1\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u6d89\u53ca\u51b2\u7a81\u3001\u6218\u4e89\u548c\u5404\u79cd\u6c14\u5019\u95ee\u9898\u3002\u5b83\u4eec\u4e0d\u4ec5\u4ec5\u662f\u5173\u4e8e\u8fd9\u4e9b\u95ee\u9898\uff0c\u4f46\u8fd9\u4e9b\u95ee\u9898\u6e17\u900f\u8fdb\u6765\u4e86\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u6211\u4eec\u90fd\u662f\u751f\u6d3b\u5728\u8fd9\u4e2a\u4e16\u754c\u4e2d\u7684\u4eba\u7c7b\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u6211\u5e0c\u671b\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4e5f\u53cd\u6620\u5728\u6211\u6240\u62a5\u9053\u548c\u5199\u4f5c\u7684\u5185\u5bb9\u4e2d\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u90a3\u4e48\u5f53\u4f60\u63a5\u89e6\u827a\u672f\u65f6\uff0c\u5f53\u4f60\u753b\u8096\u50cf\u65f6\uff0c\u4f60\u662f\u5426\u7528\u540c\u6837\u7684\u65b9\u6cd5\u753b\u98ce\u666f\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u6211\u4e0d\u753b\u98ce\u666f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u6211\u7684\u610f\u601d\u662f\uff0c\u4e0d\u662f\u3002\u6bd4\u5982\u90a3\u5835\u6c34\u5899\uff0c\u90a3\u662f\u6c34\uff0c\u5bf9\u5427\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u662f\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u90a3\u4e48\u6d77\u666f\uff0c\u4f60\u600e\u4e48\u8bf4\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u90fd\u4e00\u6837\u3002\u51e0\u5e74\u524d\u6211\u529e\u8fc7\u4e00\u4e2a\u5c55\u89c8\uff0c\u53eb\u505a\u300a\u4eba\u548c\u6d77\u7684\u8096\u50cf\u300b\uff0c\u6709\u4eba\u544a\u8bc9\u6211\uff0c\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u96f7\u59c6\u5e03\u5170\u7279\u7684\u8bb0\u5f55\u58f0\u660e\uff0c\u4ed6\u8bf4\u6211\u53ea\u753b\u8fc7\u8096\u50cf\u3002\u8fd9\u610f\u5473\u7740\u5373\u4f7f\u662f\u6700\u5c0f\u7684\u9e21\u820d\u5728\u6700\u5c0f\u7684\u8680\u523b\u7248\u753b\u4e2d\u4e5f\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u7279\u5b9a\u7684\u9e21\u820d\u3002\u6982\u62ec\u662f\u827a\u672f\u7684\u6700\u5927\u654c\u4eba\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u6bcf\u4e00\u7b14\u90fd\u5fc5\u987b\u662f\u7cbe\u786e\u7684\uff0c\u6bcf\u6b21\u90fd\u8981\u91cd\u65b0\u53d1\u73b0\u3002\u8fd9\u5c31\u662f\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u8fd9\u5f88\u96be\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u56e0\u4e3a\u5f53\u6211\u770b\u5230\u4f60\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u65f6\uff0c\u6211\u60f3\u5230\u7684\u662f\u4e2d\u56fd\u7684\u6c34\u58a8\u753b\u3002\u7279\u522b\u662f\uff0c\u5f53\u6211\u5728\u897f\u5cb8\u827a\u672f\u535a\u89c8\u4f1a\u4e0a\u5c55\u793a\u4f60\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u65f6\uff0c\u5f88\u591a\u4eba\u90fd\u770b\u8fc7\u4f60\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u4f60\u5728\u5361\u5c14\u5f17\u4e3e\u529e\u8fc7\u5c55\u89c8\uff0c\u4e5f\u5728\u5e7f\u4e1c\u7f8e\u672f\u9986\u4e3e\u529e\u8fc7\u5c55\u89c8\u3002\u4ed6\u4eec\u6765\u4e86\u540e\u8bf4\uff0c\u54e6\uff0c\u8fd9\u662fMaggie Hambling\u3002\u4ed6\u4eec\u8bf4\uff0c\u4f46\u5b83\u770b\u8d77\u6765\u50cf\u4e2d\u56fd\u7684\u6c34\u58a8\u753b\u3002\u6211\u662f\u8bf4\uff0c\u5f53\u4f60\u5728\u521b\u4f5c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4f5c\u54c1\u65f6\uff0c\u4f60\u662f\u5426\u53d7\u5230\u4e86\u542f\u53d1\uff0c\u6216\u8005\u4f60\u66fe\u7ecf\u770b\u8fc7\u4e2d\u56fd\u7684\u6c34\u58a8\u753b\uff0c\u8fd8\u662f\u53ea\u662f\u51ed\u7740\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u624b\u52bf\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u4e0d\uff0c\u6211\u6709\u7814\u7a76\u8fc7\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u4f60\u7814\u7a76\u8fc7\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u6211\u5728\u5927\u82f1\u535a\u7269\u9986\u7814\u7a76\u8fc7\uff0c\u770b\u8fc7\uff0c\u4eab\u53d7\u8fc7\u3002\u4e1c\u65b9\u827a\u672f\u4e2d\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u91cd\u8981\u7406\u5ff5\u662f\u7a7a\u767d\u548c\u5b9e\u753b\u540c\u6837\u91cd\u8981\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u968f\u7740\u5e74\u9f84\u7684\u589e\u957f\uff0c\u6211\u8bd5\u56fe\u7528\u66f4\u5c11\u7684\u7b14\u89e6\u8868\u8fbe\u66f4\u591a\u7684\u5185\u5bb9\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u66f4\u7ecf\u6d4e\uff0c\u66f4\u7ecf\u6d4e\uff0c\u4f5c\u54c1\u66f4\u5c11\uff0c\u4f46\u66f4\u6709\u529b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>:\u00a0 \u6211\u4e5f\u89c9\u5f97\u5f88\u6709\u8da3\u7684\u662f\uff0c\u6bcf\u5929\u65e9\u4e0a\uff0cMaggie\u4f60\u90fd\u4f1a\u5728\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u91cc\u7528\u5de6\u624b\u505a\u4e00\u5e45\u6c34\u58a8\u753b\uff0c\u4f5c\u4e3a\u5f00\u59cb\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u662f\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u54e6\uff0c\u771f\u7684\u5417\uff1f\u7528\u5de6\u624b\u3002\u592a\u68d2\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u8fd9\u5c31\u50cf\u94a2\u7434\u5bb6\u5728\u7ec3\u4e60\u97f3\u9636\u4e00\u6837\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u7ed8\u753b\u4e0d\u4ec5\u4ec5\u662f\u5173\u4e8e\u989c\u8272\uff0c\u8fd8\u6d89\u53ca\u5230\u989c\u6599\u7684\u89e6\u611f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u662f\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u6bcf\u5929\u65e9\u4e0a\u5728\u7d20\u63cf\u672c\u4e0a\u7528\u58a8\u6c34\u548c\u5de6\u624b\u91cd\u65b0\u611f\u53d7\u89e6\u89c9\u3002\u56e0\u4e3a\u6bd5\u7adf\u8fd9\u4e9b\u5e74\uff0c\u53f3\u624b\u5df2\u7ecf\u5145\u6ee1\u4e86\u6280\u5de7\uff0c\u800c\u5de6\u624b\u53ef\u4ee5\u7ed9\u6211\u5e26\u6765\u60ca\u559c\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u4f60\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u4e2d\u6709\u4e00\u70b9\u771f\u7684\u8ba9\u6211\u773c\u524d\u4e00\u4eae\uff0c\u5c31\u662f\u6211\u770b\u5230\u4f60\u7684\u753b\u65f6\u3002\u5728\u4e2d\u56fd\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u8bcd\u53eb\u201c\u7559\u767d\u201d\uff0c\u610f\u601d\u662f\u7559\u51fa\u7a7a\u767d\u7684\u5730\u65b9\u3002\u56e0\u4e3a\u6bcf\u5e45\u753b\u90fd\u4e0d\u80fd\u5b8c\u5168\u88ab\u989c\u6599\u8986\u76d6\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u603b\u662f\u8ba4\u4e3a\u5fc5\u987b\u627e\u5230\u753b\u4e2d\u7a7a\u767d\u7684\u548c\u8c10\u3002\u9664\u4e86\u90a3\u4e9b\u9ed1\u8272\u753b\u4f5c\u4e4b\u5916\uff0c\u6211\u770b\u5230\u4f60\u7684\u5f88\u591a\u4f5c\u54c1\u90fd\u6709\u8fd9\u79cd\u201c\u7559\u767d\u201d\u3002\u8fd9\u8ba9\u6211\u975e\u5e38\u611f\u52a8\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\uff0c\u4e00\u4f4d\u897f\u65b9\u753b\u5bb6\u4e5f\u5728\u505a\u8fd9\u79cd\u7559\u767d\u753b\u4f5c\uff0c\u8fd9\u5bf9\u6211\u6765\u8bf4\u975e\u5e38\u611f\u52a8\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u8c22\u8c22\u4f60\u3002\u591a\u5e74\u524d\uff0c\u65e0\u8bba\u753b\u5e03\u4e0a\u6709\u591a\u5c11\u989c\u6599\uff0c\u6211\u603b\u662f\u4e3a\u8428\u7f2a\u5c14\u00b7\u8d1d\u514b\u7279\u7559\u4e00\u5757\u7a7a\u767d\uff0c\u4e3a\u300a\u7b49\u5f85\u6208\u591a\u300b\u7684\u8428\u7f2a\u5c14\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u56e0\u4e3a\u8fd9\u4e9b\u90fd\u662f\uff0c\u5f53\u4f60\u6709\u8fd9\u79cd\u6c14\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u5728\u505a\u5c55\u89c8\u65f6\uff0c\u4f60\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\u5728\u4e2d\u56fd\u5982\u4f55\u5438\u5f15\u4eba\u3002\u56e0\u4e3a\u4f60\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u82f1\u56fd\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u4e00\u4e2a\u5973\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u505a\u82f1\u56fd\u73b0\u4ee3\u827a\u672f\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u5728\u4f60\u5c55\u89c8\u4e4b\u524d\uff0c\u6ca1\u6709\u4eba\u77e5\u9053\u82f1\u56fd\u73b0\u4ee3\u827a\u672f\u3002\u7136\u540e\u6211\u4eec\u5f00\u59cb\u8bf4\uff0c\u54e6\uff0c\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u5f17\u6717\u897f\u65af\u00b7\u57f9\u6839\uff0c\u9732\u897f\u5b89\u00b7\u5f17\u6d1b\u4f0a\u5fb7\u4e5f\u662f\u3002\u4e5f\u662f\u82f1\u56fd\u73b0\u4ee3\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>:\u00a0 \u4ec0\u4e48\uff0cLouisa\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>:\u00a0 \u6211\u53ea\u662f\u60f3\u95ee\uff0c\u4f60\u770b\u8fc7\u90a3\u4e48\u591a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u548c\u90a3\u4e48\u591a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u4e00\u8d77\u5de5\u4f5c\u3002\u663e\u7136\u6211\u662fMaggie\u7684\u8d85\u7ea7\u7c89\u4e1d\uff0c\u5df2\u7ecf\u5f88\u591a\u5e74\u4e86\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u5f88\u597d\u5947\uff0c\u5f53\u4f60\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b21\u770b\u5230\u5979\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u65f6\uff0c\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u6253\u52a8\u4e86\u4f60\u3002\u5b9e\u9645\u4e0a\uff0c\u4f60\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b21\u770b\u5979\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u65f6\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u611f\u89c9\uff0c\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4f60\u60f3\u548c\u5979\u5408\u4f5c\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u5b9e\u9645\u4e0a\uff0c\u6211\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b21\u770b\u5230\u5979\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u65f6\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u5728\u770b\u82f1\u56fd\u73b0\u4ee3\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u65f6\uff0c\u5f53\u7136\u6211\u4eec\u77e5\u9053Maggie\u3002\u5b9e\u9645\u4e0a\uff0c\u6211\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b21\u771f\u6b63\u8fd1\u8ddd\u79bb\u63a5\u89e6\u5979\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u662f\u901a\u8fc7\u4e00\u4e2a\u975e\u5e38\u597d\u7684\u670b\u53cb\uff0c\u5979\u4e5f\u662fMaggie\u4f5c\u54c1\u7684\u6700\u5927\u7c89\u4e1d\uff0cJane Chow\u3002\u5979\u5728\u9999\u6e2f\u529e\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u5c55\u89c8\uff0c\u8fd9\u662f\u6211\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b21\u771f\u6b63\u8fd1\u8ddd\u79bb\u770b\u5230\u5979\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u5929\u54ea\uff0c\u90a3\u65f6\u4f60\u6b63\u5728\u753b\u6ce2\u6d6a\uff0c\u5bf9\u5417\uff1f\u7136\u540e\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u54c7\uff0c\u6709\u8fd9\u4e48\u591a\u4e2d\u56fd\u7684\u7f8e\u5b66\u5728\u91cc\u9762\u3002\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3aJane\u5f53\u65f6\u975e\u5e38\u52c7\u6562\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u82f1\u56fd\u73b0\u4ee3\u827a\u672f\u4e00\u76f4\u975e\u5e38\u6c89\u5bc2\uff0c\u5b8c\u5168\u88abYBA\u63a9\u76d6\u4e86\uff0c\u975e\u5e38\u5b89\u9759\u3002\u5979\u5b9e\u9645\u4e0a\u5728\u9999\u6e2f\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u673a\u6784\u91cc\u4e3e\u529e\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u5c55\u89c8\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\uff0c\u54c7\uff0c\u8fd9\u771f\u7684\u8ba9\u6211\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b21\u8fd1\u8ddd\u79bb\u770b\u5979\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u5f53\u65f6\u6211\u5df2\u7ecf\u89c9\u5f97\u5f88\u6709\u8da3\u4e86\u3002\u6700\u8fd1\uff0c\u5f53\u6211\u770b\u5230\u4e00\u4e9b\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u4e8b\u60c5\u65f6\uff0c\u591a\u6837\u6027\u3002\u5973\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u6b63\u5728\u5d2d\u9732\u5934\u89d2\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u5f53Maggie\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\u5728\u4e2d\u56fd\u4e3e\u884c\u65f6\uff0c\u6709\u4eba\u8bf4\uff0c\u5f53\u6211\u63d0\u5230\u82f1\u56fd\u73b0\u4ee3\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u5f17\u6717\u897f\u65af\u00b7\u57f9\u6839\u65f6\uff0c\u6709\u6ca1\u6709\u5973\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff1f\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u5f53\u7136\u6709\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u4ed6\u4eec\u771f\u7684\u5f88\u60ca\u8bb6\u3002\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u8fd9\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u9002\u5f53\u7684\u65f6\u95f4\u5728\u9999\u6e2f\u5df4\u585e\u5c14\u827a\u672f\u5c55\u671f\u95f4\u4e3e\u529eMaggie\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u8fd9\u4e0d\u4ec5\u4ec5\u662f\u5173\u4e8e\u9999\u6e2f\uff0c\u800c\u662f\u5173\u4e8e\u4e9a\u6d32\uff0c\u4e5f\u662f\u5173\u4e8e\u56fd\u9645\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>:\u00a0 \u4f60\u5728\u5c55\u51fa\u7684\u90a3\u5e45\u5de8\u5927\u7684\u6c34\u5899\u753b\u3002\u5bf9\u5427\uff0c\u90a3\u5e45\u65b0\u7684\u6c34\u5899\u753b\u3002\u5b83\u88ab\u79f0\u4e3aEdge xxx\uff0c\u4f46\u5b83\u91cd\u65b0\u56de\u5230\u4e86\u5bf9\u4f60\u975e\u5e38\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u5927\u6d77\uff0c\u5145\u6ee1\u4e86\u80fd\u91cf\u3001\u52a8\u8361\u3001\u6df7\u4e71\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a \u5927\u6d77\u610f\u5473\u7740\u4ec0\u4e48\uff0c\u6211\u7684\u610f\u601d\u662f\uff0c\u5b83\u7ed9\u4e86\u4f60\u4e00\u79cd\u9707\u64bc\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6211\u77e5\u9053\u5728\u7535\u5f71\u91cc\uff0c\u5f53\u4f60\u770b\u5230\u4e00\u5bf9\u60c5\u4fa3\u5f7c\u6b64\u5468\u65cb\u65f6\uff0c\u5f53\u7136\u4e0d\u4f1a\u6709\u5e8a\u620f\u3002\u4ed6\u4eec\u53ea\u4f1a\u5c55\u793a\u6d77\u6d0b\uff0c\u6d77\u6d0b\uff0c\u6d77\u6d0b\u3002\u8fd9\u4e2a\u573a\u666f\u5e94\u8be5\u4ee3\u8868\u6027\u7231\uff0c\u6211\u60f3\u5728\u6240\u6709\u8fd9\u4e9b\u7535\u5f71\u91cc\u90fd\u662f\u8fd9\u6837\u3002\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u4e0d\u8fc7\u73b0\u5728\u4ed6\u4eec\u5c55\u793a\u5f97\u66f4\u591a\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u73b0\u5728\u5c55\u793a\u5f97\u66f4\u591a\u4e86\u3002\u4f46\u662f\u8fd8\u6709\u5176\u4ed6\u7cfb\u5217\u3002\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u7cfb\u5217\u53eb\u505a\u543b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u6027\u611f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u6027\u611f\u7684\u68a6\uff0c\u6027\u611f\u7684\u68a6\uff0c\u6027\u611f\u7684\u68a6\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u6211\u662f\u8bf4\uff0c\u4f60\u548c\u6797\u660e\u73e0\u5408\u4f5c\u7684\u65b0\u5c55\u89c8\u975e\u5e38\u6709\u8da3\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u5b83\u5145\u6ee1\u4e86\u751f\u547d\u3001\u6027\u548c\u620f\u5267\u6027\u3002\u5f53\u7136\uff0c\u8fd9\u662f\u57282022\u5e74\u4f60\u7ecf\u5386\u4e86\u4e00\u6b21\u4e25\u91cd\u7684\u5fc3\u810f\u75c5\u53d1\u4f5c\u4e4b\u540e\uff0c\u4f60\u5728\u6fd2\u4e34\u6b7b\u4ea1\u7684\u7ecf\u5386\u540e\u521b\u4f5c\u4e86\u4f60\u7684\u6f29\u6da1\u753b\u4f5c\u3002\u800c\u73b0\u5728\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u7f8e\u5999\u3001\u6027\u611f\u3001\u8272\u5f69\u6591\u6593\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\u8ba9\u4f60\u91cd\u62fe\u4e86\u72b6\u6001\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6211\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u8be5\u8bf4\u4ec0\u4e48\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u544a\u8bc9\u6211\u4eec\u8fd9\u4e9b\u6027\u611f\u753b\u4f5c\u7684\u6545\u4e8b\u5427\uff0cMaggie\u3002\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u89e6\u53d1\u4e86\u5b83\u4eec\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u5f53\u7136\uff0c\u90fd\u662f\u6765\u81ea\u6211\u7684\u7ecf\u5386\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u6211\u6beb\u4e0d\u6000\u7591\u8fd9\u4e00\u70b9\u3002\u4f46\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u73b0\u5728\u8bb0\u5f55\u5b83\u4eec\uff1f\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4f60\u5e74\u8f7b\u7684\u65f6\u5019\u6ca1\u6709\u753b\u6027\u611f\u7684\u68a6\uff1f\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u73b0\u5728\u624d\u753b\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u5728\u7ebd\u7ea6\u505a\u624b\u672f\u9192\u6765\u4e4b\u540e\uff0c\u4f60\u5fc3\u810f\u75c5\u53d1\u4f5c\u540e\u3002\u6211\u7684\u5fc3\u810f\u75c5\u53d1\u4f5c\u540e\uff0c\u4eba\u4eec\u7528\u624b\u5728\u6211\u7684\u80f8\u90e8\u64cd\u4f5c\uff0c\u800c\u4e0d\u662f\u7528\u673a\u5668\uff0c\u6211\u5bf9\u81ea\u5df1\u8bf4\uff0c\u8981\u4e48\u4f60\u6d3b\u4e0b\u6765\uff0c\u8981\u4e48\u4f60\u6b7b\u53bb\u3002\u8fd9\u662f\u5f88\u5b9e\u4e8b\u6c42\u662f\u7684\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u56de\u5230\u4e86\u53e6\u4e00\u4e2a\u4e16\u754c\u3002\u4f46\u6211\u4e00\u51fa\u9662\uff0c\u5728\u533b\u9662\u4f4f\u4e86\u516d\u5468\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u56de\u5230\u82f1\u56fd\uff0c\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5929\u6211\u5c31\u53c8\u56de\u5230\u4e86\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u3002\u56e0\u4e3a\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u662f\u6211\u6240\u8c13\u7684\u771f\u5b9e\u65f6\u95f4\uff0c\u5176\u4ed6\u4e00\u5207\u90fd\u662f\u5176\u4ed6\u7684\u3002\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u95e8\u5916\u53d1\u751f\u7684\u4efb\u4f55\u4e8b\u60c5\u90fd\u53ea\u662f\u751f\u6d3b\u3002\u4f46\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u5f53\u6211\u4e00\u4e2a\u4eba\u5728\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u91cc\u5c1d\u8bd5\u521b\u4f5c\u65f6\uff0c\u6211\u4e0d\u60f3\u6709\u4efb\u4f55\u58f0\u97f3\u6216\u8005\u5176\u4ed6\u5e72\u6270\uff0c\u6211\u5728\u542c\u6211\u5185\u5fc3\u7684\u58f0\u97f3\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u4f60\u7684\u5185\u5fc3\u3002\u4f60\u603b\u662f\u5728\u548c\u5185\u5fc3\u5bf9\u8bdd\u3002\u4f60\u6709\u591a\u5c11\u4e2a\u5185\u5fc3\u7684\u5bf9\u8bdd\u5bf9\u8c61\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: George Mellie\uff0c\u4ed6\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u7535\u89c6\u8282\u76ee\u7684\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff0c\u8bf4\u6211\u4f1a\u4f5c\u4e3aMaggie Coffin Hambling\u8f7d\u5165\u827a\u672f\u53f2\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u54e6\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u5fc5\u987b\u8c08\u8c08Maggie\u7684\u7535\u89c6\u8282\u76ee\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u753b\u5eca\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u662f\u7684\uff0c\u753b\u5eca\u3002\u56e0\u4e3a\u6700\u8fd1\u6211\u548cTate\u7684Gregor\u4e00\u8d77\u5403\u665a\u9910\uff0c\u4ed6\u8bf4\u6211\u4eec\u90a3\u4e00\u4ee3\u4eba\u5bf9\u8fd9\u4e2a\u8282\u76ee\u4e0a\u763e\u3002\u6bcf\u5468\u6211\u4eec\u90fd\u4f1a\u770b\u8fd9\u4e2a\u8282\u76ee\uff0cMaggie Hambling\u662f\u6211\u7684\u5076\u50cf\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u4ed6\u4eec\u4f1a\u6765\u542c\u4f60\u7684\u8bb2\u5ea7\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u8fd9\u662f\u4e2a\u5f88\u68d2\u7684\u8282\u76ee\u3002\u5b83\u5728\u516b\u5341\u5e74\u4ee3\u64ad\u51fa\uff0c\u53eb\u505a\u753b\u5eca\uff0c\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u7ade\u731c\u8282\u76ee\u3002\u7ed9\u51fa\u4e00\u5e45\u827a\u672f\u4f5c\u54c1\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u7ec6\u8282\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u5609\u5bbe\u4eec\u5fc5\u987b\u51b3\u5b9a\u8fd9\u4e2a\u7ec6\u8282\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\uff0c\u4f5c\u54c1\u6765\u81ea\u54ea\u91cc\u3002\u8fd9\u4f4d\u7cbe\u5f69\u7684\u7235\u58eb\u6b4c\u624b\uff0c\u6211\u7684\u597d\u670b\u53cb\uff0c\u4e5f\u662fMaggie\u7684\u597d\u670b\u53cb\uff0c\u662f\u8282\u76ee\u7684\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\u3002Maggie\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u5c0f\u7ec4\u7684\u8d1f\u8d23\u4eba\uff0cFrank Whitford\u662f\u53e6\u4e00\u4e2a\u5c0f\u7ec4\u7684\u8d1f\u8d23\u4eba\u3002Maggie\u5f53\u7136\u975e\u5e38\u51fa\u8272\uff0c\u4e00\u76f4\u5728\u62bd\u70df\uff0c\u975e\u5e38\u7cbe\u5f69\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u4f60\u53ef\u4ee5\u5728\u7535\u89c6\u8282\u76ee\u91cc\u62bd\u70df\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u592a\u9177\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u4e0d\u65ad\u731c\u6d4b\u90a3\u4e9b\u7ec6\u8282\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u6709\u4e00\u6b21\uff0c\u6211\u548cMaggie\u4ee5\u53ca\u4fee\u5973Wendy Beckett\u4e00\u8d77\u4e0a\u8282\u76ee\uff0c\u73b0\u5728\u5979\u5df2\u7ecf\u4e0d\u5728\u4e86\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u662f\u6211\uff0cMaggie\u548cWendy Beckett\u4fee\u5973\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: Wendy Beckett\u4fee\u5973\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u5979\u53ebWendy Beckett\u4fee\u5973\u3002\u5979\u672c\u6765\u5e94\u8be5\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u9690\u5c45\u7684\u4fee\u5973\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u4eec\u89c1\u5230\u5979\u65f6\uff0c\u5979\u975e\u5e38\u5408\u7fa4\uff0c\u4e0d\u662f\u5417\uff0cMaggie\uff1f\u60f3\u8c61\u4e00\u4e0b\uff0c\u6211\u60f3\u4f60\u4e3a\u4e86\u4e0a\u8282\u76ee\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b21\u7a7f\u4e0a\u4e86\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u591a\u5c11\u5e74\u6ca1\u7a7f\u8fc7\u7684\u8fde\u8863\u88d9\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6211\u4e0d\u60f3\u88ab\u4fee\u5973\u62a2\u98ce\u5934\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97Louisa\u7a7f\u4e86\u4e00\u4ef6\u7d27\u8eab\u7684T\u6064\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u54e6\uff0c\u4f60\u7a7f\u4e86\u4e00\u4ef6\u7d27\u8eabT\u6064\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u7136\u540e\u6211\u4e0d\u8bb0\u5f97Michelangelo\uff0cMichelangelo\u548cLeonardo\u7684\u6240\u6709\u65b9\u5411\u3002\u6211\u65c1\u8fb9\u6709\u4e2a\u4fee\u5973\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u5728\u5316\u5986\u95f4\u91ccGeorge Mellie\u8d70\u8fdb\u6765\u3002\u6211\u8bf4\uff0cGeorge\uff0c\u4f60\u5728\u8fd9\u91cc\u505a\u4ec0\u4e48\uff1f\u4f60\u4ece\u6765\u4e0d\u5728\u8fd9\u4e2a\u65f6\u95f4\u70b9\u51fa\u73b0\u3002\u4f60\u8fd9\u4e48\u65e9\u5c31\u6765\u4e86\u3002\u4ed6\u8bf4\uff0c\u6211\u518d\u4e5f\u53d7\u4e0d\u4e86\u697c\u4e0a\u88ab\u795d\u798f\u4e00\u6b21\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u4f46\u8fd9\u5f88\u6709\u8da3\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3aMaggie\u5bf9\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u4eb2\u7231\u7684\uff0c\u6211\u611f\u5230\u6709\u70b9\u7d27\u5f20\u3002\u6211\u8bf4\uff0cMaggie\uff0c\u6211\u771f\u4e0d\u6562\u76f8\u4fe1\u3002\u4f60\u6bcf\u5468\u90fd\u5728\u8fd9\u4e2a\u8282\u76ee\u91cc\u5149\u5f69\u7167\u4eba\u3002\u5979\u8bf4\uff0c\u4e0d\u662f\u8fd9\u4e2a\u8be5\u6b7b\u7684\u8282\u76ee\u3002\u6211\u7a7f\u4e0a\u4e8625\u5e74\u6765\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b21\u7a7f\u7684\u8fde\u8863\u88d9\uff0c\u4e00\u4ef6\u91d1\u8272\u67e0\u6aac\u8272\u7684\u8fde\u8863\u88d9\uff0c\u662fElizabeth Welsh\u5728Derek Jarman\u7684\u300a\u66b4\u98ce\u96e8\u300b\u7ed3\u675f\u65f6\u7a7f\u7684\uff0c\u5979\u5728\u7ed3\u5c3e\u5531\u300a\u98ce\u66b4\u5929\u6c14\u300b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u4f60\u53ef\u4ee5\u8c37\u6b4c\u4e00\u4e0b\u3002\u90a3\u4ef6\u8fde\u8863\u88d9\u6ca1\u6709\u4efb\u4f55\u5730\u65b9\u78b0\u5230\u6211\u3002\u5b83\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u62d6\u5c3e\uff0c\u975e\u5e38\u7279\u522b\u3002\u5f53\u7537\u4eba\u5e26\u7740\u9ea6\u514b\u98ce\u8d70\u5230\u6211\u4eec\u8eab\u540e\u65f6\uff0c\u4ed6\u770b\u7740\u6211\u7684\u80f8\u90e8\u8bf4\uff0c\u8fd9\u5468\u6211\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u6211\u4eec\u8981\u628a\u5b83\u653e\u5728\u54ea\u91cc\u3002\u6211\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u8981\u628a\u5b83\u653e\u5728\u54ea\u91cc\u3002\u7136\u540eWendy\u7684\u7b2c\u4e00\u53e5\u8bdd\uff0c\u5979\u63a2\u8fc7\u8eab\uff0c\u975e\u5e38\u6709\u8da3\u3002\u5979\u63a2\u8fc7\u8eab\u8bf4\uff0c\u4e0d\u8981\u90a3\u4e48\u611a\u8822\uff0c\u4ece\u5979\u7684\u5185\u88e4\u91cc\u7a7f\u51fa\u53bb\u3002\u90a3\u662f\u5979\u5bf9\u6211\u8bf4\u7684\u7b2c\u4e00\u53e5\u8bdd\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u6211\u559c\u6b22\u3002\u5929\u54ea\uff0c\u4f60\u4eec\u771f\u6709\u8da3\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u6211\u4eec\u52aa\u529b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u90a3\u603b\u662f\u5f88\u6709\u8da3\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u6bd4\u73b0\u5728\u6709\u8da3\u591a\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u662f\u7684\uff0c\u6211\u60f3\u65f6\u4ee3\u53d8\u4e86\uff0c\u4f46\u65e0\u8bba\u5982\u4f55\uff0c\u4f60\u548c\u6797\u660e\u73e0\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u5f88\u68d2\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u671f\u5f85\u542c\u5230\u66f4\u591a\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u6211\u771f\u60f3\u53c2\u52a0\u90a3\u4e2a\u548cBeckett\u4fee\u5973\u4e00\u8d77\u7684\u8282\u76ee\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: Wendy Beckett\uff0cGeorge Mellie\u3002\u6bcf\u5468\u90fd\u6709\u4e0d\u540c\u7684\u5609\u5bbe\uff0c\u4f46Maggie\u548cGeorge\u4ee5\u53caFrank\uff0c\u4ed6\u4eec\u662f\u4e09\u5927\u652f\u67f1\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\uff0c\u4eb2\u7231\u7684Frank\u6709\u4e00\u5468\u6765\u627e\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u6211\u770b\u5230\u4f60\u6536\u5230\u5f88\u591a\u4fe1\u3002\u662f\u7c89\u4e1d\u4fe1\u5417\uff1f\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u662f\u7684\uff0cFrank\u3002\u4ed6\u8bf4\uff0c\u6211\u6ca1\u6536\u5230\u4efb\u4f55\u4fe1\u3002\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u4f60\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4e0d\u8bd5\u7740\u641e\u9519\u70b9\u4ec0\u4e48\u5462\uff1f\u6ca1\u6709\u4eba\u559c\u6b22\u4e00\u4e2a\u806a\u660e\u7edd\u9876\uff0c\u4ec0\u4e48\u90fd\u5bf9\u7684\u4eba\u3002\u4ed6\u8bf4\uff0c\u6211\u505a\u4e0d\u5230\u3002\u7136\u540e\u4ed6\u5f00\u59cb\u50cf\u6211\u4e00\u6837\u6234\u9886\u7ed3\uff0c\u4f46\u4ecd\u7136\u6ca1\u6709\u6536\u5230\u4efb\u4f55\u7c89\u4e1d\u4fe1\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u8fd9\u4e2a\u8282\u76ee\u6301\u7eed\u4e86\u591a\u4e45\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u505a\u4e86\u4e09\u5b63\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u5728\u4e94\u5929\u5185\u505a\u4e86\u5341\u4e2a\u8282\u76ee\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u54c7\uff0c\u771f\u5feb\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u662f\u7684\u3002\u53bb\u66fc\u5f7b\u65af\u7279\uff0c\u4e0d\uff0c\u53bb\u5e03\u91cc\u65af\u6258\u5c14Harley\u7535\u89c6\u53f0\u3002\u53bb\u5e03\u91cc\u65af\u6258\u5c14\u4e94\u5929\uff0c\u975e\u5e38\u7d27\u5f20\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u4e94\u5929\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u662f\u7684\uff0c\u4e94\u5929\u3002\u6bcf\u5929\u505a\u4e24\u4e2a\u8282\u76ee\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u4ed6\u4eec\u6536\u94b1\uff0c\u8dd1\u56de\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u4f60\u4e0d\u4ec5\u8981\u98ce\u8da3\u8ff7\u4eba\uff0c\u8fd8\u8981\u4e0d\u65ad\u731c\u6d4b\u8fd9\u4e9b\u8be5\u6b7b\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\u7ec6\u8282\u3002\u8fd9\u662f\u82f1\u56fd\u5404\u5730\u827a\u672f\u6536\u85cf\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u8fd9\u5bb9\u6613\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u4e0d\u5bb9\u6613\u3002\u4f8b\u5982\uff0c\u4ed6\u4eec\u4f1a\u5c55\u793a\u753b\u4f5c\u7684\u4e00\u5e73\u65b9\u82f1\u5bf8\uff0c\u4f60\u5fc5\u987b\u731c\u51fa\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u662f\u8c01\u3002\u5bf9\u4e8eStubbs\uff0c\u4ed6\u4eec\u5c55\u793a\u4e86\u4e00\u5e73\u65b9\u82f1\u5bf8\u7684\u5929\u7a7a\uff0c\u6211\u5f53\u7136\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u90a3\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u3002\u7136\u540e\u955c\u5934\u62c9\u56de\uff0c\u6709\u4e00\u5339\u810f\u516e\u516e\u7684\u5927\u9a6c\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u82f1\u56fd\u7684\u6bcf\u4e2a\u4eba\u90fd\u77e5\u9053\u90a3\u662fStubbs\u3002\u8fd9\u5f88\u96be\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u786e\u5b9e\u5f88\u96be\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u5f97\u5206\u603b\u662f95\u5206\u7ed9Frank\uff0c3\u5206\u7ed9\u6211\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u4f46\u6211\u4eec\u8d62\u4e86\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u5168\u5973\u6027\u5c0f\u7ec4\u8d62\u4e86\u3002\u6211\u60f3\u662f\u56e0\u4e3aWendy\u4fee\u5973\u5728\u827a\u672f\u65b9\u9762\u76f8\u5f53\u5389\u5bb3\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: Wendy\u4fee\u5973\u5f88\u5389\u5bb3\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u5979\u786e\u5b9e\u5f88\u5389\u5bb3\u3002\u5979\u4f4f\u5728\u8bfa\u798f\u514b\u7684\u4e00\u8f86\u62d6\u8f66\u91cc\uff0c\u6ca1\u6709\u4ec0\u4e48\u522b\u7684\u4e8b\u60c5\u505a\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u5979\u6709\u65f6\u95f4\u7814\u7a76\u827a\u672f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>: \u5728\u62d6\u8f66\u91cc\u3002\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u5979\u4f4f\u5728\u62d6\u8f66\u91cc\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u73b0\u5728\u4e0d\u4f4f\u4e86\u3002\u5979\u73b0\u5728\u5df2\u7ecf\u53bb\u4e16\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5979\u4f4f\u5728\u54ea\u91cc\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u559d\u9152\uff0c\u5979\u771f\u662f\u80fd\u628a\u4efb\u4f55\u4eba\u559d\u5012\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u90fd\u5e7b\u60f3\u5979\u7684\u623f\u8f66\u56e0\u4e3a\u4e0b\u9762\u5806\u6ee1\u4e86\u7a7a\u74f6\u5b50\u800c\u8d8a\u5347\u8d8a\u9ad8\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5929\u54ea\uff0c\u9a6c\u5409\uff0c\u4f60\u89c9\u5f97\u540c\u6027\u604b\u548c\u5973\u6743\u4e3b\u4e49\u5bf9\u4f60\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u6709\u5f71\u54cd\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u5b8c\u5168\u6ca1\u6709\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5b8c\u5168\u6ca1\u6709\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6709\u65f6\u5019\u5b83\u4eec\u4f1a\u6709\u4e00\u4e9b\u5f71\u54cd\u3002\u6bd4\u5982\u6cf0\u7279\u7f8e\u672f\u9986\u4e3e\u529e\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u540c\u6027\u604b\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\u3002\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u8fd9\u662f\u4e0d\u76f8\u5173\u7684\u3002\u6211\u540c\u610f\u6bd5\u52a0\u7d22\u7684\u89c2\u70b9\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u90fd\u662f\u90e8\u5206\u7537\u6027\u548c\u90e8\u5206\u5973\u6027\uff0c\u4f60\u5fc5\u987b\u628a\u8fd9\u4e24\u90e8\u5206\u7ed3\u5408\u8d77\u6765\u624d\u80fd\u521b\u4f5c\u51fa\u827a\u672f\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u4f60\u4e0d\u5982\u4e3e\u529e\u4e00\u4e2a\u7ea2\u5934\u53d1\u4eba\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\u6216\u8005\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5c55\u89c8\u3002\u6211\u66fe\u7ecf\u53c2\u52a0\u8fc7\u6cf0\u7279\u7f8e\u672f\u9986\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u5168\u662f\u5973\u6027\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u8fd9\u8ba9\u4eba\u5fc3\u91cc\u4ea7\u751f\u4e86\u4e00\u9053\u5c4f\u969c\uff0c\u89c9\u5f97\u8fd9\u662f\u5973\u6027\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002\u552f\u4e00\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u662f\u4f5c\u54c1\u597d\u4e0d\u597d\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5b8c\u5168\u540c\u610f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u6211\u4e5f\u540c\u610f\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u4e5f\u60f3\u626e\u6f14\u4e00\u4e0b\u6076\u9b54\u7684\u4ee3\u8a00\u4eba\u3002\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u5973\u6743\u4e3b\u4e49\u3001\u6027\u522b\u3001\u5973\u6027\u7684\u8eab\u4efd\u786e\u5b9e\u5f71\u54cd\u5230\u827a\u672f\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002\u6709\u4e9b\u5c55\u89c8\uff0c\u6bd4\u5982\u6cf0\u7279\u82f1\u56fd\u7f8e\u672f\u9986\u73b0\u5728\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u53eb\u300a\u5973\u6027\u7684\u53cd\u53db\u300b\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\uff0c\u662f\u5173\u4e8e\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u7684\u5386\u53f2\u5c55\u89c8\uff0c\u5c55\u51fa\u4e86\u88ab\u9057\u5fd8\u7684\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u3001\u9ed1\u4eba\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u548c\u4e0d\u540c\u5730\u533a\u7684\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u3002\u8fd9\u4e2a\u5386\u53f2\u5c55\u89c8\u8ba9\u6211\u4eec\u770b\u5230\u4e86\u5e73\u65f6\u770b\u4e0d\u5230\u7684\u4f1f\u5927\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u60c5\u51b5\u66f4\u590d\u6742\u4e00\u4e9b\u3002\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u5168\u662f\u5973\u6027\u6216\u540c\u6027\u604b\u827a\u672f\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\u592a\u8fc7\u7b80\u5355\u7c97\u66b4\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u6bcf\u4e2a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u90fd\u662f\u4e0d\u540c\u7684\u3002\u6709\u4e9b\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u60f3\u8868\u8fbe\u653f\u6cbb\u89c2\u70b9\u6216\u54f2\u5b66\u4e16\u754c\u89c2\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u4e0d\u540c\u3002\u4f46\u6211\u4e0d\u8ba4\u4e3a\u53ef\u4ee5\u6839\u636e\u662f\u5426\u521b\u4f5c\u6982\u5ff5\u827a\u672f\u6765\u8bc4\u5224\u4e00\u4e2a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u7684\u597d\u574f\u3002\u6982\u5ff5\u827a\u672f\u5f80\u5f80\u6d89\u53ca\u653f\u6cbb\u548c\u793e\u4f1a\u95ee\u9898\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u4ed6\u4eec\u5e0c\u671b\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u8ba8\u8bba\u8fd9\u4e9b\u95ee\u9898\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u6240\u6709\u827a\u672f\u90fd\u662f\u6982\u5ff5\u6027\u7684\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u6240\u6709\u827a\u672f\u90fd\u6d89\u53ca\u601d\u60f3\u3002\u6709\u4e9b\u827a\u672f\u4e13\u6ce8\u4e8e\u753b\u7b14\u7684\u8868\u73b0\u529b\uff0c\u6709\u4e9b\u5219\u4f7f\u7528\u4e0d\u540c\u7684\u5a92\u4ecb\u548c\u65b0\u6280\u672f\u3002\u827a\u672f\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u5e7f\u6cdb\u7684\u9886\u57df\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u540c\u610f\u9a6c\u5409\u7684\u89c2\u70b9\uff0c\u4f5c\u54c1\u5fc5\u987b\u8981\u597d\u3002\u5f53\u7136\uff0c\u4ec0\u4e48\u662f\u597d\uff0c\u8fd9\u662f\u4e2a\u5343\u53e4\u96be\u9898\u3002\u6211\u559c\u6b22\u5b89\u5fb7\u70c8\u00b7\u5e03\u52d2\u4e1c\u7684\u89c2\u70b9\uff0c\u5f53\u4ed6\u770b\u5230\u4e00\u4ef6\u4f1f\u5927\u7684\u827a\u672f\u4f5c\u54c1\u65f6\uff0c\u4ed6\u611f\u89c9\u6709\u4e00\u9635\u51b7\u98ce\u63a0\u8fc7\u592a\u9633\u7a74\u3002\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u8fd9\u79cd\u76f4\u89c9\u5f88\u91cd\u8981\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u4f60\u8fd8\u9700\u8981\u601d\u8003\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4f60\u89c9\u5f97\u5b83\u597d\uff0c\u8fd9\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u6311\u6218\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u6bcf\u4e2a\u4eba\u90fd\u6709\u4e0d\u540c\u7684\u610f\u89c1\uff0c\u5bf9\u5427\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u5f53\u7136\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4f46\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u73b0\u5728\u4e16\u754c\u4e0a\u670999%\u7684\u4eba\u662f\u8ddf\u98ce\u8005\u3002\u5982\u679c\u6709\u4eba\u8bf4\u4f60\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u597d\uff0c\u90a3\u4e48\u5927\u5bb6\u90fd\u4f1a\u8bf4\u5b83\u597d\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u5bf9\uff0c\u5bf9\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u6211\u4eec\u7f3a\u4e4f\u4e2a\u4eba\u610f\u89c1\u548c\u4e2a\u6027\u5316\uff0c\u7f3a\u4e4f\u81ea\u4fe1\u53bb\u8bf4\u65e0\u8bba\u522b\u4eba\u600e\u4e48\u8bf4\u6211\u90fd\u559c\u6b22\u8fd9\u4e2a\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u8fd8\u6709\u65f6\u5c1a\u7684\u5f71\u54cd\u3002\u4f60\u770b\u770b\u7ef4\u7c73\u5c14\u8fd9\u79cd\u4f1f\u5927\u7684\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c150\u5e74\u524d\u51e0\u4e4e\u6ca1\u4eba\u4e70\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002\u5386\u53f2\u4f1a\u663e\u73b0\u51fa\u6765\u3002\u54c1\u5473\u3001\u5e02\u573a\u7684\u4e3b\u89c2\u6027\u90fd\u4f1a\u8d77\u4f5c\u7528\u3002\u6709\u4e9b\u65f6\u9ae6\u7684\u6536\u85cf\u5bb6\u559c\u6b22\u67d0\u4e2a\u4f5c\u54c1\u5e76\u5728\u79c1\u4eba\u6536\u85cf\u4e2d\u5c55\u793a\u5b83\uff0c\u8fd9\u79cd\u73b0\u8c61\u5f88\u5e38\u89c1\u3002\u4f46\u6700\u7ec8\uff0c\u6211\u76f8\u4fe1\u4f18\u79c0\u7684\u827a\u672f\u4f1a\u88ab\u770b\u5230\u3002\u8fd9\u4e5f\u662f\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u73b0\u5728\u4e0d\u540c\u79cd\u65cf\u80cc\u666f\u7684\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u3001\u6765\u81ea\u4e0d\u540c\u5168\u7403\u5730\u533a\u7684\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u3001\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u5f00\u59cb\u88ab\u770b\u5230\u5f88\u91cd\u8981\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u968f\u7740\u793e\u4ea4\u5a92\u4f53\u7684\u53d1\u5c55\u3002\u9a6c\u5409\uff0c\u4f60\u6210\u957f\u4e3a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u65f6\uff0c\u662f\u5426\u89c9\u5f97\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u88ab\u5ffd\u89c6\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6211\u4ece\u4e0d\u660e\u767d\u5173\u4e8e\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u7684\u4e89\u8bba\u3002\u5728\u516d\u5341\u5e74\u4ee3\uff0c\u6211\u662f\u827a\u672f\u5b66\u751f\u65f6\uff0c\u5e03\u91cc\u5947\u7279\u00b7\u8d56\u5229\u4ee3\u8868\u82f1\u56fd\u53c2\u52a0\u4e86\u5a01\u5c3c\u65af\u53cc\u5e74\u5c55\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u4e00\u76f4\u89c9\u5f97\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4ed6\u4eec\u8981\u5927\u60ca\u5c0f\u602a\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u516d\u5341\u5e74\u4ee3\u5e03\u91cc\u5947\u7279\u5df2\u7ecf\u505a\u5230\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u4f46\u770b\u770b\u56fd\u5bb6\u535a\u7269\u9986\u7684\u6536\u85cf\u4e2d\u6709\u591a\u5c11\u5973\u6027\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u770b\u770b\u6709\u591a\u5c11\u753b\u5eca\u4ee3\u8868\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u6bd4\u4f8b\u975e\u5e38\u5c11\u3002\u603b\u6709\u4e00\u4e9b\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u56e0\u4e3a\u5979\u4eec\u975e\u5e38\u4f18\u79c0\u800c\u8131\u9896\u800c\u51fa\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u786e\u5b9e\u6bd4\u7537\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u5c11\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u8fd9\u5176\u4e2d\u6d89\u53ca\u5f88\u591a\u95ee\u9898\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u53ef\u4ee5\u505a\u4e00\u4e2a\u4e13\u95e8\u7684\u64ad\u5ba2\u8ba8\u8bba\u8fd9\u4e2a\u3002\u827a\u672f\u5b66\u6821\u91cc\u5973\u6027\u5b66\u751f\u548c\u7537\u6027\u5b66\u751f\u6570\u91cf\u5dee\u4e0d\u591a\uff0c\u4f46\u80fd\u9760\u827a\u672f\u4e3a\u751f\u5e76\u88ab\u753b\u5eca\u548c\u535a\u7269\u9986\u4ee3\u8868\u7684\u5973\u6027\u5c31\u5c11\u5f88\u591a\u3002\u8fd9\u79cd\u60c5\u51b5\u5728\u6539\u5584\uff0c\u4f46\u8fd8\u6709\u5f88\u591a\u95ee\u9898\u9700\u8981\u89e3\u51b3\uff0c\u6bd4\u5982\u793e\u4f1a\u7ecf\u6d4e\u72b6\u51b5\u3001\u751f\u80b2\u7b49\u7b49\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u5728\u574e\u4f2f\u97e6\u5c14\u827a\u672f\u5b66\u9662\u65f6\uff0c\u6709\u4e00\u79cd\u611a\u8822\u7684\u611f\u89c9\uff0c\u89c9\u5f97\u5973\u6027\u4e0d\u4ec5\u8981\u548c\u7537\u751f\u4e00\u6837\u597d\uff0c\u8fd8\u8981\u66f4\u597d\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u8fd9\u662f\u5408\u7406\u7684\u611f\u89c9\u3002\u5973\u6027\u5728\u827a\u672f\u5b66\u6821\u91cc\u6ca1\u6709\u5f97\u5230\u540c\u6837\u7684\u91cd\u89c6\uff0c\u751a\u81f3\u7ecf\u5e38\u53d7\u5230\u7537\u5bfc\u5e08\u7684\u6027\u9a9a\u6270\u3002\u4f46\u8fd9\u79cd\u611f\u89c9\u662f\u5408\u7406\u7684\uff0c\u867d\u7136\u4e0d\u5bf9\uff0c\u4f46\u5f53\u65f6\u5c31\u662f\u90a3\u6837\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u90a3\u5c31\u662f\u5f53\u65f6\u7684\u60c5\u51b5\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4f46\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u73b0\u5728\u4e0d\u4e00\u6837\u4e86\u3002\u4f60\u89c9\u5f97\u73b0\u5728\u5b8c\u5168\u4e0d\u4e00\u6837\u4e86\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u4e0d\u5b8c\u5168\u4e0d\u4e00\u6837\uff0c\u4f46\u8d8b\u52bf\u5728\u53d8\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u4ee5\u524d\u4eba\u4eec\u4f1a\u8bf4\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u4f46\u4ece\u4e0d\u8bf4\u7537\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u3002\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u8fd9\u79cd\u60c5\u51b5\u73b0\u5728\u4e0d\u518d\u53d1\u751f\u4e86\u3002\u591a\u6837\u6027\u65b9\u9762\u4e5f\u5728\u6539\u5584\u3002\u8fd9\u8981\u5f52\u529f\u4e8e\u201c\u9ed1\u4eba\u7684\u547d\u4e5f\u662f\u547d\u201d\u8fd0\u52a8\u7684\u63a8\u52a8\uff0c\u4f46\u53d8\u5316\u786e\u5b9e\u5728\u53d1\u751f\u3002\u4f46\u5f88\u591a\u8fd8\u662f\u793e\u4f1a\u7ecf\u6d4e\u95ee\u9898\u3002\u6709\u4e9b\u80cc\u666f\u7684\u5b69\u5b50\u6ca1\u6709\u8d44\u91d1\u4e0a\u827a\u672f\u5b66\u6821\u3002\u827a\u672f\u4e0d\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u80fd\u8d5a\u94b1\u7684\u804c\u4e1a\uff0c\u5728\u82f1\u56fd\u6559\u80b2\u7cfb\u7edf\u4e2d\u4e5f\u88ab\u8f7b\u89c6\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\uff0c\u6765\u81ea\u4e0d\u592a\u5bcc\u88d5\u80cc\u666f\u7684\u4eba\u6210\u4e3a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u66f4\u96be\u3002\u8fd9\u662f\u663e\u800c\u6613\u89c1\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u7236\u6bcd\u4e5f\u4f1a\u903c\u8feb\u5b69\u5b50\u505a\u533b\u751f\u6216\u5f8b\u5e08\u7b49\u6b63\u7ecf\u804c\u4e1a\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u5bf9\uff0c\u627e\u4e00\u4efd\u6709\u7a33\u5b9a\u6536\u5165\u7684\u5de5\u4f5c\u3002\u8fd9\u5f88\u590d\u6742\uff0c\u4f46\u8d8b\u52bf\u5728\u53d8\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u5fc5\u987b\u4fdd\u6301\u8b66\u60d5\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u8fd8\u6709\u5f88\u957f\u7684\u8def\u8981\u8d70\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u9a6c\u5409\uff0c\u4f60\u6559\u5b66\u751f\u65f6\uff0c\u89c9\u5f97\u73b0\u5728\u5973\u6027\u5b66\u751f\u66f4\u591a\u4e86\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u662f\u7684\uff0c\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u73b0\u5728\u5973\u6027\u5b66\u751f\u66f4\u591a\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5979\u4eec\u66f4\u51b3\u5fc3\u6210\u4e3a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u8fd8\u662f\u53ea\u662f\u60f3\u62ff\u4e2a\u5b66\u4f4d\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u771f\u7684\u8981\u505a\uff0c\u4f60\u65e0\u8bba\u5728\u54ea\u91cc\u90fd\u4f1a\u505a\u3002\u4eba\u4eec\u6709\u65f6\u4f1a\u6709\u5927\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u7684\u5e7b\u60f3\uff0c\u4f46\u5982\u679c\u4f60\u771f\u7684\u8981\u505a\uff0c\u8fd9\u662f\u5185\u5fc3\u7684\u9a71\u52a8\u3002\u4f60\u5fc5\u987b\u6709\u51b3\u5fc3\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u621114\u5c81\u65f6\u5728\u5b66\u6821\u7684\u827a\u672f\u8003\u8bd5\u4e2d\u62ff\u4e86\u7b2c\u4e00\u540d\u3002\u5f53\u65f6\u6211\u5728\u8003\u8bd5\u4e2d\u4ec0\u4e48\u90fd\u6ca1\u505a\uff0c\u53ea\u662f\u5728\u753b\u753b\u548c\u5438\u5f15\u6ce8\u610f\u529b\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u6211\u6df1\u6df1\u7231\u7740\u7684\u751f\u7269\u8001\u5e08\u5728\u76d1\u8003\u3002\u7136\u540e\u6211\u770b\u5230\u949f\u8868\u5df2\u7ecf\u662f3:20\u4e86\uff0c\u77e5\u90533:30\u8981\u4ea4\u753b\u4f5c\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u8d76\u7d27\u753b\u4e86\u4e00\u5e45\uff0c\u7ed3\u679c\u51fa\u6765\u6211\u62ff\u4e86\u7b2c\u4e00\u540d\u3002\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u5f88\u5947\u602a\uff0c\u5fc5\u987b\u7814\u7a76\u4e00\u4e0b\u8fd9\u4e2a\u4e8b\u60c5\u3002\u7136\u540e\u827a\u672f\u8001\u5e08\u628a\u6211\u53eb\u5230\u4e00\u8fb9\u8bf4\uff0c\u4e0d\u7ba1\u4f60\u591a\u7a77\uff0c\u603b\u80fd\u4e70\u5f97\u8d77\u4e00\u5f20\u7eb8\u548c\u4e00\u652f\u94c5\u7b14\u3002\u8fd9\u5bf9\u6211\u6765\u8bf4\u5f88\u6709\u9053\u7406\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u54c7\u3002\u4f60\u7684\u7236\u6bcd\u53cd\u5bf9\u4f60\u6210\u4e3a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u4ed6\u4eec\u4e0d\u662f\u5f88\u8d5e\u6210\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u5df2\u7ecf\u8bad\u7ec3\u597d\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u54c7\uff0c\u54c7\u3002\u6211\u559c\u6b22\u8fd9\u4e2a\u3002\u4f60\u600e\u4e48\u8bad\u7ec3\u4ed6\u4eec\uff0c\u600e\u4e48\u8ba9\u4ed6\u4eec\u652f\u6301\u4f60\u7684\u827a\u672f\u4e8b\u4e1a\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6211\u5988\u5988\u603b\u8bf4\u6211\u662f\u5979\u89c1\u8fc7\u6700\u56fa\u6267\u7684\u5b69\u5b50\uff0c\u5979\u662f\u4e00\u540d\u8001\u5e08\u3002\u621112\u5c81\u751f\u65e5\u65f6\u8981\u6c42\u4e00\u5957\u5965\u65af\u5361\u00b7\u738b\u5c14\u5fb7\u7684\u5168\u96c6\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5bf9\uff0c\u6211\u8bfb\u5230\u8fc7\u8fd9\u4e2a\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u5df2\u7ecf\u8bad\u7ec3\u597d\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u6211\u559c\u6b22\u4f60\u603b\u662f\u8bf4\u827a\u672f\u5728\u4f60\u751f\u547d\u4e2d\u7684\u89d2\u8272\uff0c\u4ece\u4f60\u5c0f\u65f6\u5019\u6709\u7eb8\u548c\u94c5\u7b14\u5f00\u59cb\uff0c\u827a\u672f\u4e00\u76f4\u966a\u4f34\u5728\u4f60\u8eab\u8fb9\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u4ea8\u5229\u00b7\u6469\u5c14\u8bf4\u8fc7\uff0c\u827a\u672f\u662f\u6cbb\u7597\uff0c\u5f53\u7136\u5b83\u662f\u6cbb\u7597\u3002\u7279\u522b\u662f\u5f53\u4f60\u5931\u53bb\u7231\u7684\u4eba\u65f6\uff0c\u4f5c\u4e3a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u6211\u5f88\u5e78\u8fd0\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u8fd9\u662f\u79ef\u6781\u7684\u60b2\u4f24\u65b9\u5f0f\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u4e54\u6cbb\u00b7\u6885\u5229\u53bb\u4e16\u540e\u6211\u753b\u4e86\u4ed6\u4e24\u5e74\uff0c\u6240\u6709\u7684\u8096\u50cf\u753b\u6211\u90fd\u8bd5\u56fe\u8ba9\u5b83\u4eec\u770b\u8d77\u6765\u5c3d\u53ef\u80fd\u7684\u6d3b\u751f\u751f\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u8d27\u8f66\u6765\u628a\u6240\u6709\u753b\u4f5c\u8fd0\u5230\u66fc\u5f7b\u65af\u7279\u7684\u753b\u5eca\u3002\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5929\u65e9\u4e0a\u6211\u6765\u5230\u8fd9\u91cc\uff0c\u770b\u5230\u5899\u4e0a\u4ec0\u4e48\u90fd\u6ca1\u6709\uff0c\u6211\u5bf9\u81ea\u5df1\u8bf4\uff0c\u4f60\u5fc5\u987b\u9762\u5bf9\u73b0\u5b9e\uff0c\u4e54\u6cbb\u5df2\u7ecf\u53bb\u4e16\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4f60\u548c\u4e54\u6cbb\u00b7\u6885\u5229\u5f88\u4eb2\u5bc6\uff0c\u5bf9\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Maggi Hambling<\/b>: \u662f\u7684\uff0c\u4f46\u6ca1\u6709\u8def\u6613\u838e\u90a3\u4e48\u4eb2\u5bc6\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck<\/b>: \u4f46\u6211\u5dee\u70b9\u5ac1\u7ed9\u4ed6\u4e86\uff0c\u90a3\u662f\u53e6\u4e00\u4e2a\u6545\u4e8b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u54e6\uff0c\u4f60\u5dee\u70b9\u5ac1\u7ed9\u4ed6\u4e86\u3002\u5929\u54ea\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Louisa Buck: \u6211\u60f3\u95ee\u95ee\u4f60\uff0c\u9a6c\u5409\uff0c\u4f60\u5728\u827a\u672f\u95e8\u753b\u5eca\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\u53eb\u201c\u591c\u665a\u201d\uff0c\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u9009\u62e9\u8fd9\u4e2a\u6807\u9898\uff1f\u4f60\u8bf4\u8fc7Maggi Hambling: \uff0c\u591c\u665a\u5bf9\u4f60\u6765\u8bf4\u66f4\u4eb2\u5bc6\u548c\u795e\u79d8\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u00a0<\/h4>

Pearl Lam<\/b>\uff1a\u9a6c\u5409\uff0c\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4f60\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\u53eb\u201c\u591c\u665a\u201d\uff1f\u4f60\u63d0\u5230\u591c\u665a\u5bf9\u4f60\u6765\u8bf4\u66f4\u4eb2\u5bc6\u548c\u795e\u79d8\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u55ef\uff0c\u5669\u68a6\u822c\u7684\u7ecf\u5386\uff0c\u5f53\u621114\u5c81\u65f6\u5728\u5317\u6781\u5730\u5e26\u53d6\u5f97\u7b2c\u4e00\u540d\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u90a3\u5929\u665a\u4e0a\u71ac\u591c\u5230\u51cc\u6668\u4e24\u70b9\uff0c\u8bd5\u56fe\u753b\u51fa\u6211\u5367\u5ba4\u7a97\u5916\u7684\u591c\u7a7a\u3002\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5929\uff0c\u6211\u628a\u8fd9\u4e9b\u753b\u5e26\u5230\u5b66\u6821\uff0c\u6240\u6709\u7684\u753b\u90fd\u88ab\u6446\u5728\u4e00\u65c1\uff0c\u5176\u4ed6\u5973\u5b69\u90fd\u5728\u5632\u7b11\u5b83\u4eec\u3002\u827a\u672f\u8001\u5e08\u4f0a\u51af\u00b7\u5fb7\u9c81\u91cc\uff0c\u662f\u4e00\u4f4d\u771f\u6b63\u7684\u804c\u4e1a\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u8d70\u8fdb\u623f\u95f4\uff0c\u6211\u5728\u89d2\u843d\u91cc\u5feb\u8981\u54ed\u4e86\u3002\u5979\u95ee\u6211\u53d1\u751f\u4e86\u4ec0\u4e48\u4e8b\uff0c\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u6211\u71ac\u591c\u5230\u51cc\u6668\u4e24\u70b9\u8bd5\u56fe\u753b\u591c\u7a7a\uff0c\u4f46\u5927\u5bb6\u90fd\u5728\u7b11\u8bdd\u5b83\u4eec\u3002\u5979\u8bf4\uff0c\u542c\u7740\uff0c\u4e0d\u7ba1\u522b\u4eba\u600e\u4e48\u8bf4\u4f60\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u4f60\u90fd\u4e0d\u8981\u5728\u610f\u3002\u4f60\u662f\u81ea\u5df1\u6700\u597d\u7684\u6279\u8bc4\u5bb6\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u592a\u68d2\u7684\u5efa\u8bae\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u975e\u5e38\u68d2\u7684\u5efa\u8bae\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u975e\u5e38\u68d2\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5728\u8fd9\u4e48\u5e74\u8f7b\u7684\u65f6\u5019\u5f97\u5230\u8fd9\u6837\u7684\u5efa\u8bae\u771f\u662f\u592a\u597d\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u4f46\u591c\u665a\u4e00\u76f4\u4f34\u968f\u7740\u4f60\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4f60\u6700\u8fd1\u521b\u4f5c\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u4e5f\u662f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u6211\u60f3\u56de\u5230\u8d77\u70b9\uff0c\u518d\u6b21\u5c1d\u8bd5\u753b\u591c\u7a7a\u3002\u6bd5\u7adf\uff0c\u6211\u4e0d\u6562\u60f3\u8c61\u81ea\u4ece\u621114\u5c81\u4ee5\u6765\u5df2\u7ecf\u8fc7\u4e86\u591a\u5c11\u5e74\uff0c\u5df2\u7ecf\u5f88\u591a\u5e74\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4f60\u4fdd\u7559\u6240\u6709\u4ece14\u5c81\u65f6\u8d77\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u6ca1\u6709\uff0c\u6211\u6bc1\u6389\u4e86\u5f88\u591a\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u6211\u6ca1\u6709\u5f88\u591a\u5f88\u65e9\u671f\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u6211\u60f3\u5b83\u4eec\u90fd\u88ab\u4e22\u5f03\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4e0a\u6b21\u6211\u62dc\u8bbf\u4f60\u65f6\uff0c\u4f60\u544a\u8bc9\u6211\u4f60\u548c\u585e\u897f\u8389\u00b7\u5e03\u6717\u4e00\u8d77\u5403\u4e86\u987f\u975e\u5e38\u6109\u5feb\u7684\u665a\u9910\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u4f60\u5fc3\u810f\u75c5\u53d1\u4f5c\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u6211\u53ea\u559d\u4e86\u4e00\u676f\u5a01\u58eb\u5fcc\uff0c\u4e00\u5207\u90fd\u5b8c\u5168\u7a7a\u767d\u4e86\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u4f11\u770b\u7740\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u9a6c\u5409\u51fa\u4e86\u4ec0\u4e48\u4e8b\u3002\u7136\u540e\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u5728\u7ebd\u7ea6\uff0c\u6551\u62a4\u8f66\u9a6c\u4e0a\u6765\u4e86\uff0c\u6211\u5728\u897f\u5948\u5c71\u533b\u9662\u4f4f\u4e86\u516d\u5468\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u90a3\u6bb5\u65f6\u95f4\u5f88\u7cdf\u7cd5\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u8fd9\u6539\u53d8\u4e86\u4f60\u5417\uff1f\u9664\u4e86\u4e0d\u5438\u70df\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u4f60\u4f1a\u6ce8\u610f\u5230\u6211\u73b0\u5728\u4e0d\u5438\u70df\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4e0d\u5438\u70df\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\u5173\u4e8e\u6d77\u7684\u753b\uff0c\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u5c0f\u65f6\u5019\u8d70\u8fdb\u6d77\u91cc\u548c\u6d77\u5bf9\u8bdd\uff0c\u5c31\u50cf\u5b83\u662f\u6211\u7684\u670b\u53cb\u3002\u6211\u4e0d\u4f1a\u6e38\u6cf3\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u8d70\u8fdb\u6d77\u91cc\u548c\u5b83\u8bf4\u8bdd\u3002\u73b0\u5728\u6211\u8bd5\u56fe\u542c\u6d77\u7684\u58f0\u97f3\u3002\u4f60\u61c2\u6211\u7684\u610f\u601d\u5417\uff1f\u4e00\u5207\u90fd\u6539\u53d8\u4e86\u3002\u6211\u4e00\u76f4\u5de5\u4f5c\u5f88\u52aa\u529b\uff0c\u6bcf\u5929\u90fd\u5728\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u91cc\u3002\u4f46\u663e\u7136\uff0c\u968f\u7740\u5e74\u9f84\u7684\u589e\u957f\uff0c\u65f6\u95f4\u4f3c\u4e4e\u8d8a\u6765\u8d8a\u5c11\uff0c\u8d8a\u6765\u8d8a\u5c11\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u5fc5\u987b\u771f\u7684\u52aa\u529b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u8fd9\u6539\u53d8\u4e86\u4f60\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\u5417\uff1f\u4f60\u603b\u662f\u6709\u53cd\u590d\u51fa\u73b0\u7684\u4e3b\u9898\u3002\u4f60\u4f1a\u601d\u8003\u6b7b\u4ea1\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u6211\u6bcf\u5929\u90fd\u601d\u8003\u6b7b\u4ea1\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4f60\u8ba4\u4e3a\u6b7b\u4ea1\u662f\u7f8e\u4e3d\u7684\u5417\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u6211\u4e0d\u5e0c\u671b\u5b83\u73b0\u5728\u53d1\u751f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u4f46\u4e54\u6cbb\u00b7\u6885\u5229\u5f00\u73a9\u7b11\u8bf4\u4f60\u662f\u201c\u9a6c\u5409\u68fa\u6750\u54c8\u59c6\u6797\u201d\u3002\u5728\u4f60\u7684\u5de5\u4f5c\u5ba4\u91cc\uff0c\u6709\u4e00\u5e45\u975e\u5e38\u7f8e\u4e3d\u7684\u4ea8\u4e3d\u57c3\u5854\u00b7\u83ab\u96f7\u65af\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\uff0c\u5979\u662f\u4f60\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u7f2a\u65af\u4e4b\u4e00\u3002\u5728\u5979\u7684\u68fa\u6750\u91cc\u3002\u4f60\u5728\u8428\u798f\u514b\u7684\u76d6\u6069\u65af\u4f2f\u52d2\u4e4b\u5bb6\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u5c55\u89c8\u975e\u5e38\u5173\u4e8e\u6b7b\u4ea1\u95ee\u9898\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u8fd9\u513f\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u5934\u9aa8\uff0c\u4f46\u4f3c\u4e4e\u4e5f\u6709\u975e\u5e38\u5f3a\u70c8\u7684\u80fd\u91cf\u3002\u5373\u4f7f\u5728\u4f60\u63cf\u7ed8\u6b7b\u8005\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\u4e2d\uff0c\u90a3\u79cd\u80fd\u91cf\u4f9d\u7136\u5b58\u5728\u3002\u8fd9\u662f\u4e00\u79cd\u53cc\u5203\u5251\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e2a\u5c55\u89c8\u4e5f\u53eb\u201c\u591c\u665a\u201d\u3002\u4f46\u591c\u665a\uff0c\u9ed1\u6697\u4e2d\u4f3c\u4e4e\u4e5f\u6709\u79ef\u6781\u548c\u5145\u6ee1\u80fd\u91cf\u7684\u4e1c\u897f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u8c22\u8c22\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u5f88\u9ad8\u5174\u542c\u5230\u8fd9\u4e2a\u3002\u4f46\u6211\u60f3\u518d\u8c08\u4e00\u70b9\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u5f88\u6709\u8da3\uff0c\u4f60\u7ecf\u5386\u4e86\u6fd2\u6b7b\u4f53\u9a8c\uff0c\u521b\u4f5c\u4e86\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u8bb0\u5fc6\u4e2d\u5145\u6ee1\u4e86\u6b7b\u4ea1\uff0c\u4f46\u751f\u547d\u4f9d\u7136\u5b58\u5728\u3002\u5728\u8fd9\u4e9b\u65b0\u753b\u4f5c\u4e2d\u4e5f\u6709\u6027\u611f\u7684\u5143\u7d20\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u5173\u4e8e\u6027\u611f\u7684\u68a6\u5883\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u8be5\u8bf4\u4ec0\u4e48\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u4f60\u521b\u4f5c\u4f60\u60f3\u521b\u4f5c\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u4f46\u8fd9\u662f\u4e00\u79cd\u9a71\u52a8\u529b\u3002\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u8ba9\u4f60\u60f3\u521b\u4f5c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4f5c\u54c1\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u751f\u6d3b\u51b3\u5b9a\u4e86\u6211\u753b\u4ec0\u4e48\u3002\u6bd4\u5982\u8bf4\u90a3\u5e45\u300a\u6d77\u6e7e\u5973\u6027\u51c6\u5907\u6218\u4e89\u300b\uff0c\u5728\u5251\u6865\u3002\u8fd9\u662f\u4e00\u5f20\u62a5\u7eb8\u4e0a\u7684\u7167\u7247\uff0c\u7167\u7247\u4e2d\u8fd9\u4e9b\u5973\u6027\u5728\u6c99\u6f20\u4e2d\uff0c\u7a7f\u7740\u770b\u4f3c\u5723\u7ecf\u4e2d\u7684\u670d\u88c5\u3002\u73b0\u5728\u4f60\u5230\u5904\u90fd\u80fd\u770b\u5230\uff0c\u4f46\u5f53\u65f6\u5728\u516b\u5341\u5e74\u4ee3\uff0c\u4f60\u770b\u4e0d\u5230\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u8fd9\u4e9b\u7a7f\u7740\u5723\u7ecf\u98ce\u683c\u670d\u88c5\u7684\u5973\u6027\uff0c\u7ec3\u4e60\u4f7f\u7528\u8fd9\u4e9b\u5de8\u5927\u7684\u706b\u7bad\u53d1\u5c04\u5668\u3002\u90a3\u53ea\u662f\u4e00\u5f20\u62a5\u7eb8\u4e0a\u7684\u9ed1\u767d\u7167\u7247\uff0c\u4f46\u5b83\u63a8\u52a8\u6211\u505a\u4e9b\u4e8b\u60c5\u3002\u6211\u662f\u8bf4\uff0c\u4f60\u65e0\u6cd5\u9884\u6d4b\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4e8b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5b83\u63a8\u52a8\u6216\u6fc0\u52b1\u4e86\u4f60\u53bb\u521b\u4f5c\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u90a3\u4f4d\u5b66\u6821\u7684\u827a\u672f\u8001\u5e08\u8bf4\u4e86\u4e00\u4e2a\u975e\u5e38\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u89c2\u70b9\uff0c\u4e3b\u9898\u9009\u62e9\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u800c\u4e0d\u662f\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u9009\u62e9\u4e3b\u9898\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u786e\u5b9e\u5982\u6b64\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u7136\u540e\uff0c\u53ea\u6709\u5f53\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u5728\u521b\u4f5c\u65f6\u88ab\u611f\u52a8\uff0c\u4e00\u5e45\u753b\u4f5c\u624d\u80fd\u611f\u52a8\u522b\u4eba\u3002\u800c\u6cb9\u753b\u7684\u5947\u5999\u4e4b\u5904\u5728\u4e8e\uff0c\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u5b83\u80fd\u505a\u5230\u8fd9\u4e00\u70b9\u3002\u6bd4\u5982\u5728\u4f1f\u5927\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\u4e2d\uff0c\u7f57\u65af\u79d1\uff0c\u8d5b\u00b7\u6258\u59c6\u5e03\u96f7\uff0c\u4f60\u611f\u89c9\u4f60\u5c31\u5728\u521b\u4f5c\u73b0\u573a\uff0c\u8fd9\u662f\u6cb9\u753b\u80fd\u505a\u5230\u7684\uff0c\u5176\u4ed6\u4efb\u4f55\u4e1c\u897f\u90fd\u65e0\u6cd5\u505a\u5230\u3002\u6bd4\u5982\uff0c\u975e\u5e38\u611f\u4eba\u7684\u7167\u7247\u4e5f\u53ef\u80fd\u6709\uff0c\u4f46\u7167\u7247\u603b\u662f\u8bb0\u5f55\u7684\u77ac\u95f4\uff0c\u53ea\u662f\u5386\u53f2\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u8bb0\u5f55\uff0c\u5b83\u4eec\u603b\u662f\u88ab\u88c5\u5728\u73bb\u7483\u540e\u9762\uff0c\u5f88\u793c\u8c8c\u5730\uff0c\u5b83\u4eec\u603b\u662f\u5df2\u7ecf\u53d1\u751f\u8fc7\u4e86\u3002\u800c\u6cb9\u753b\uff0c\u6bd4\u5982\u63d0\u9999\u7684\u6700\u540e\u4e00\u5e45\u753b\uff0c\u4f60\u611f\u89c9\u81ea\u5df1\u5c31\u5728\u73b0\u573a\uff0c\u770b\u7740\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u521b\u4f5c\u7684\u8fc7\u7a0b\u3002\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u8fd9\u5c31\u662f\u827a\u672f\u7684\u9b54\u529b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u7f8e\u4e3d\u7684\u89e3\u91ca\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u6bcf\u5f53\u6211\u4eec\u8c08\u8bba\u9a6c\u5409\uff0c\u81f3\u5c11\u6211\u4f1a\u9996\u5148\u60f3\u5230\u4f60\u5bf9\u6cb9\u753b\u7684\u70ed\u7231\uff0c\u4f60\u90a3\u4e9b\u7f8e\u4e3d\u5145\u6ee1\u80fd\u91cf\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\u3002\u4f46\u4f60\u4e5f\u521b\u4f5c\u4e86\u4e00\u4e9b\u60ca\u4eba\u7684\u96d5\u5851\uff0c\u6709\u516c\u5171\u96d5\u5851\uff0c\u4e5f\u6709\u79c1\u4eba\u96d5\u5851\u3002\u5728\u4f60\u5373\u5c06\u4e3e\u529e\u7684\u65b0\u5c55\u89c8\u4e2d\uff0c\u6709\u4e00\u4e9b\u4f60\u4e4b\u524d\u96d5\u5851\u7684\u91cd\u65b0\u521b\u4f5c\u7248\u672c\uff0c\u6d82\u6210\u767d\u8272\uff0c\u4f7f\u5b83\u4eec\u770b\u8d77\u6765\u50cf\u5e7d\u7075\uff0c\u8fd8\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u65b0\u7684\u59d4\u6258\u4f5c\u54c1\uff0c\u7528\u5b9e\u5fc3\u94f6\u94f8\u9020\u7684\u96d5\u5851\u3002\u4f60\u80fd\u8c08\u8c08\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u63a8\u52a8\u4f60\u521b\u4f5c\u96d5\u5851\uff0c\u4ee5\u53ca\u5b83\u5982\u4f55\u4e0e\u6cb9\u753b\u76f8\u5173\u548c\u4e0d\u540c\u5417\uff1f\u6211\u6307\u7684\u662f\u5b83\u662f\u4e00\u79cd\u4e09\u7ef4\u7684\u5a92\u4ecb\uff0c\u4f46\u4f60\u5168\u8eab\u5fc3\u5730\u6295\u5165\u5176\u4e2d\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u6211\u7684\u96d5\u5851\u4f3c\u4e4e\u603b\u662f\u6bd4\u6211\u7684\u6cb9\u753b\u5f15\u8d77\u66f4\u591a\u7684\u8f70\u52a8\u3002\u5965\u65af\u5361\u00b7\u738b\u5c14\u5fb7\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5bf9\uff0c\u5965\u65af\u5361\u00b7\u738b\u5c14\u5fb7\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u5965\u65af\u5361\u00b7\u738b\u5c14\u5fb7\uff0c\u5f15\u8d77\u4e86\u5de8\u5927\u7684\u8f70\u52a8\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\uff1f\u53ea\u662f\u56e0\u4e3a\u4f60\u6ca1\u6709\u628a\u5965\u65af\u5361\u00b7\u738b\u5c14\u5fb7\u653e\u5728\u57fa\u5ea7\u4e0a\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\uff1a\u5bf9\uff0c\u4ed6\u662f\u4eba\u6c11\u7684\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5bf9\uff0c\u6b63\u662f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u4ed6\u5173\u5fc3\u4eba\u6027\u3002\u6211\u662f\u8bf4\uff0c\u5982\u679c\u8981\u628a\u4ed6\u548c\u90a3\u4e9b\u8425\u5730\u4e2d\u7684\u4eba\u653e\u5728\u4e00\u8d77\u7684\u8bdd\u3002\u54e6\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4ed6\u4e0d\u662f\u90a3\u79cd\u6218\u6597\u82f1\u96c4\u3002\u6211\u8bfb\u5230\u7684\u4e00\u4e9b\u8bc4\u8bba\u4e2d\u8bf4\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e2a\u5965\u65af\u5361\u00b7\u738b\u5c14\u5fb7\u4eff\u4f5b\u4ece\u68fa\u6750\u4e2d\u8df3\u51fa\u6765\u3002\u5176\u5b9e\u90a3\u5e76\u4e0d\u662f\u68fa\u6750\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\u5bf9\uff0c\u662f\u77f3\u68fa\u3002\u662f\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4ed6\u4eec\u8bf4\u4ed6\u4ece\u77f3\u68fa\u4e2d\u5347\u8d77\uff0c\u800c\u4e14\u6ca1\u6709\u53d7\u5230\u5c0a\u656c\u3002\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u4ed6\u5e76\u6ca1\u6709\u88ab\u5d07\u62dc\u3002\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4f60\u8981\u5d07\u62dc\u4ed6\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u4e0d\u8fc7\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u96d5\u5851\u7684\u7279\u522b\u4e4b\u5904\u5728\u4e8e\u5b83\u4eec\u662f\u516c\u5171\u96d5\u5851\u3002\u56e0\u6b64\uff0c\u5b83\u4eec\u786e\u5b9e\u4f1a\u5f15\u8d77\u6781\u5927\u7684\u8f70\u52a8\u3002\u5bf9\u4e8e\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u6765\u8bf4\uff0c\u628a\u8fd9\u6837\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u5c55\u793a\u51fa\u6765\u975e\u5e38\u52c7\u6562\uff0c\u540c\u65f6\u4e5f\u6709\u66f4\u591a\u7684\u4eba\u80fd\u591f\u770b\u5230\u5b83\u4eec\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u5b83\u4eec\u5728\u516c\u5171\u9886\u57df\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\uff0c\u4eba\u4eec\u4f1a\u6709\u5404\u79cd\u770b\u6cd5\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5f53\u4ee3\u827a\u672f\u5c31\u662f\u5173\u4e8e\u4e89\u8bae\u7684\u3002\u55ef\uff0c\u6211\u662f\u8bf4\uff0c\u4e89\u8bae\u662f\u597d\u4e8b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u5982\u679c\u5b58\u5728\u4e89\u8bae\uff0c\u90a3\u5c31\u8bf4\u660e\u4e8b\u60c5\u6709\u4e86\u6df1\u5ea6\u3002\u6211\u60f3\u8bf4\u7684\u662f\uff0c\u8bb8\u591aMaggi\u7684\u96d5\u5851\u662f\u5728\u79c1\u4eba\u9886\u57df\u4e2d\u7684\u3002\u5728\u753b\u5eca\u91cc\uff0c\u5b83\u4eec\u89c4\u6a21\u8f83\u5c0f\u3002\u5b83\u4eec\u4e5f\u6709\u5f88\u5927\u7684\u89c4\u6a21\u3002\u4f46\u662f\u8fd9\u4e9b\u5c11\u6570\u516c\u5171\u96d5\u5851\u50cf\u662f\u5f15\u96f7\u9488\u4e00\u6837\uff0c\u5438\u5f15\u4e86\u4eba\u4eec\u7684\u610f\u89c1\u3001\u504f\u89c1\u3001\u5bf9\u827a\u672f\u548c\u751f\u6d3b\u7684\u611f\u53d7\u3002\u6bd4\u5982\u5965\u65af\u5361\u00b7\u738b\u5c14\u5fb7\u3001\u73ed\u6770\u660e\u00b7\u5e03\u91cc\u987f\u3001\u739b\u4e3d\u00b7\u6c83\u65af\u901a\u514b\u62c9\u592b\u7279\u7b49\u7b49\u3002\u8fd9\u662f\u516c\u5171\u96d5\u5851\u4e0e\u79c1\u4eba\u96d5\u5851\u4e4b\u95f4\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u5b8c\u5168\u4e0d\u540c\u7684\u65b9\u9762\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u6211\u770b\u5230\u7684\u5173\u4e8eMaggi\u7684\u4e00\u4e9b\u8bc4\u8bba\u4e2d\u63d0\u5230\uff0c\u5979\u8bf4\u8981\u6709\u827a\u672f\u81ea\u7531\u6765\u521b\u4f5c\u516c\u5171\u96d5\u5851\u3002\u7edd\u5bf9\u6b63\u786e\u3002\u56e0\u4e3a\u8fd9\u662f\u5979\u5bf9\u90a3\u4e2a\u4eba\u7269\u7684\u89e3\u8bfb\uff0c\u5979\u7684\u89e3\u8bfb\u3002\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4eba\u4eec\u8981\u4ec5\u4ec5\u53bb\u8bc4\u5224\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u597d\u5427\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u4eba\u4eec\u6709\u6743\u5229\u8868\u8fbe\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u610f\u89c1\u3002\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u867d\u7136\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e0d\u559c\u6b22\u53ef\u80fd\u4e0d\u597d\uff0c\u4f46\u8fd9\u662f\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u5f88\u660e\u663e\uff0c\u96d5\u5851\u6bd4\u753b\u4f5c\u66f4\u76f4\u63a5\u9762\u5bf9\u89c2\u4f17\u3002\u4f60\u53ef\u4ee5\u8fdb\u753b\u5eca\u770b\u4e00\u770b\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u8bf4\u201c\u54e6\uff0c\u6211\u8ba8\u538c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u201d\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u79bb\u5f00\u3002\u4f46\u662f\u96d5\u5851\u4e0e\u4f60\u5171\u4eab\u7a7a\u95f4\uff0c\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u5b83\u66f4\u5177\u5bf9\u6297\u6027\u3002\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u5728Aldborough\u6d77\u8fb9\u7684\u90a3\u5ea7\u201c\u8d1d\u58f3\u96d5\u5851\u201d\u4e0a\u66fe\u7ecf\u670913\u5904\u6d82\u9e26\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u54e6\uff0c\u90a3\u5c31\u5728\u4f60\u9644\u8fd1\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u662f\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u90a3\u4f60\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u65f6\u5019\u5f00\u59cb\u505a\u96d5\u5851\u7684\uff0cMaggi\uff1f<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\u5927\u7ea6\u662f\u57281993\u5e74\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u633a\u665a\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u786e\u5b9e\u5f88\u665a\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u662f\u7684\u3002\u6211\u5f53\u65f6\u5728\u753b\u4e00\u7cfb\u5217\u7b11\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u610f\u8bc6\u5230\u6211\u8d8a\u6765\u8d8a\u60f3\u5728\u7a7a\u95f4\u4e2d\u7ed8\u5236\u4e00\u4e2a\u7269\u4f53\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u5f00\u59cb\u5c1d\u8bd5\u53bb\u5236\u4f5c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u7a7a\u95f4\u4e2d\u7684\u7269\u4f53\u3002\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u6700\u65b0\u7684\u90a3\u4e2a\u662f\u739b\u4e3d\u00b7\u6c83\u65af\u901a\u514b\u62c9\u592b\u7279\u7684\u96d5\u50cf\u3002\u662f\u7684\u3002\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u90a3\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u88f8\u9732\u7684\u96d5\u50cf\uff0c\u6211\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u670b\u53cb\u3002\u96d5\u5851\u9876\u7aef\u7684\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u88f8\u9732\u7684\u5973\u6027\u5f62\u8c61\u9762\u5bf9\u4e16\u754c\u3002\u662f\u7684\u3002\u5b83\u662f\u4e3a\u4e86\u739b\u4e3d\u00b7\u6c83\u65af\u901a\u514b\u62c9\u592b\u7279\uff0c\u800c\u4e0d\u662f\u739b\u4e3d\u00b7\u6c83\u65af\u901a\u514b\u62c9\u592b\u7279\u672c\u4eba\u7684\u3002\u6211\u7684\u4e00\u4e2a\u597d\u670b\u53cb\uff0c\u4f5c\u5bb6\u4fdd\u7f57\u00b7\u8d1d\u5229\uff0c\u603b\u662f\u770bChannel Four\u65b0\u95fb\uff0c\u5b83\u5728\u65e9\u4e0a8\u70b9\u7ed3\u675f\u3002\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u90a3\u5929\u661f\u671f\u4e8c\uff0c\u5f53\u96d5\u5851\u5f15\u8d77\u5e7f\u6cdb\u5173\u6ce8\u65f6\u3002\u4ed6\u6253\u7535\u8bdd\u7ed9\u6211\u8bf4\uff0c\u201c\u5929\u554a\uff0c\u4f60\u8fd9\u6b21\u771f\u662f\u628a\u2018\u732b\u653e\u8fdb\u4e86\u9e3d\u5b50\u7fa4\u2019\u3002\u201d\u8fd9\u771f\u662f\u592a\u68d2\u4e86\u3002\u540c\u4e00\u5468\u6211\u79bb\u5f00\u4e86\u5f53\u5730\u7684Waitrose\uff0c\u4e00\u4f4d\u975e\u5e38\u6109\u5feb\u7684\u8428\u798f\u514b\u5973\u58eb\u5bf9\u6211\u7b11\u4e86\u7b11\uff0c\u8bf4\uff1a\u201c\u53c8\u5728\u5236\u9020\u9ebb\u70e6\u4e86\uff0c\u6211\u770b\u3002\u201d\u4f46\u6211\u5e76\u4e0d\u60f3\u6545\u610f\u5236\u9020\u4e89\u8bae\u3002\u8fd9\u53ea\u662f\u53d1\u751f\u4e86\u3002\u4f46\u5982\u679c\u5b83\u5f15\u8d77\u4e89\u8bae\uff0c\u90a3\u8bf4\u660e\u5b83\u6709\u70b9\u751f\u547d\u529b\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u4e89\u8bae\u5f88\u75af\u72c2\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u6211\u540c\u610f\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4f60\u8bf4\u7684\u610f\u601d\u662f\u5927\u5bb6\u90fd\u5728\u8c08\u8bba\u5b83\u3002\u4e3a\u4ec0\u4e48\u4e0d\u5462\uff1f\u8fd9\u7b97\u662f\u514d\u8d39\u7684\u5ba3\u4f20\u3002\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u8fd9\u662f\u6700\u68d2\u7684\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u5b83\u8ba9\u4eba\u4eec\u601d\u8003\u3002\u5b83\u521b\u9020\u4e86\u8ba8\u8bba\u7684\u8bdd\u9898\uff0c\u8fd9\u771f\u7684\u5f88\u91cd\u8981\u3002\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u5728\u8fd9\u4e2a\u4e16\u754c\u4e0a\uff0c\u4f60\u5fc5\u987b\u770b\u5230\u4e00\u4e9b\u4e1c\u897f\uff0c\u4eba\u4eec\u5fc5\u987b\u611f\u53d7\u5230\uff0c\u5e76\u4e14\u5fc5\u987b\u8ba8\u8bba\u3002\u8fd9\u662f\u827a\u672f\u7684\u4e00\u90e8\u5206\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u6b63\u5982\u6211\u4e4b\u524d\u6240\u8bf4\uff0c\u827a\u672f\u662f\u751f\u6d3b\u7684\u4e00\u90e8\u5206\uff0c\u65e0\u8bba\u597d\u574f\u4e11\u964b\uff0c\u4e0d\u8bba\u600e\u6837\uff0c\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3a\u4eba\u4eec\u9047\u5230\u5b83\uff0c\u8d8a\u591a\u7684\u4eba\u9047\u5230\u827a\u672f\uff0c\u5bf9\u4ed6\u4eec\u6765\u8bf4\u5c31\u8d8a\u597d\u3002\u4e0d\u8bba\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u611f\u89c9\u6216\u53cd\u5e94\u5982\u4f55\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u6211\u8ba4\u4e3aMaggi\u5728\u9999\u6e2f\u5c55\u51fa\u5979\u7684\u753b\u4f5c\u548c\u96d5\u5851\u5c06\u4f1a\u975e\u5e38\u4ee4\u4eba\u5174\u594b\u3002\u56e0\u6b64\uff0c\u6211\u771f\u7684\u5e0c\u671b\u56fd\u9645\u4eba\u58eb\u8fd9\u6b21\u80fd\u56de\u5230\u5df4\u585e\u5c14\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u8fd9\u5c06\u66f4\u5177\u56fd\u9645\u5316\u3002\u8fd9\u5c06\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u6781\u597d\u7684\u5e73\u53f0\uff0c\u8ba9\u4e2d\u56fd\u753b\u5eca\uff0c\u9999\u6e2f\u753b\u5eca\u5c55\u793a\u82f1\u56fd\u73b0\u4ee3\u827a\u672f\u3002\u90a3\u91cc\u6ca1\u6709\uff0c\u753b\u5eca\u4e5f\u6ca1\u6709\u5973\u6027\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\uff0c\u4f46\u5374\u662f\u82f1\u56fd\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u4f46\u6709\u8da3\u7684\u662f\uff0c\u4f60\u77e5\u9053\uff0cMaggi\u66fe\u7ecf\u5b9a\u671f\u671d\u5723\u822c\u5730\u53bb\u5927\u82f1\u535a\u7269\u9986\uff0c\u89c2\u770b\u4e2d\u56fd\u3001\u65e5\u672c\u7684\u4e66\u6cd5\u548c\u7ed8\u753b\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002\u4f46\u4e5f\u6709\u5f88\u591a\u4eba\u8bc4\u8bba\u8bf4\uff0cMaggi\u7684\u8bb8\u591a\u96d5\u5851\u6709\u4e00\u79cd\u7c7b\u4f3c\u4e8e\u4e2d\u56fd\u6587\u4eba\u96d5\u5851\u7684\u611f\u89c9\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u4f46\u5b9e\u9645\u4e0a\uff0c\u5f53\u4f60\u8d70\u8fdb\u5979\u5728\u535a\u7269\u9986\u7684\u5c55\u89c8\u65f6\uff0c\u4f60\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\u8fd9\u4e9b\u662f\u4e2d\u56fd\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u8fd8\u662f\u5176\u4ed6\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u7684\u4f5c\u54c1\u3002\u7136\u540e\u4ed6\u4eec\u4f1a\u8bf4\uff0c\u54e6\uff0c\u8fd9\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u82f1\u56fd\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\u54e6\uff0c\u5929\u554a\uff0c\u4ed6\u4eec\u6709\u5f88\u591a\u5934\u53d1\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1a\u5f88\u591a\u5934\u53d1\u3002\u662f\u7684\uff0c\u5979\u51fa\u73b0\u5728\u6240\u6709\u7684\u793e\u4ea4\u5a92\u4f53\u4e0a\uff0c\u5927\u5bb6\u90fd\u5728\u62cd\u5979\u7684\u7167\u7247\uff0c\u6240\u6709\u7684\u793e\u4ea4\u5a92\u4f53\u4e0a\u90fd\u662f\u8fd9\u6837\u3002\u5b9e\u9645\u4e0a\uff0c\u8fd9\u633a\u6709\u8da3\u7684\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u6211\u6700\u540e\u4e00\u6b21\u81ea\u62cd\u65f6\uff0c\u6211\u4e0d\u5f97\u4e0d\u62ff\u7740\u4e00\u53ea\u6cf0\u8fea\u718a\u3002\u6211\u60f3\uff0c\u8fd9\u771f\u662f\u5230\u5934\u4e86\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Louisa Buck: <\/b>\u8fd9\u5c31\u662f\u540d\u58f0\u7684\u4ee3\u4ef7\u3002<\/span><\/p>

\u6797\u660e\u73e0<\/b>\uff1aMaggi\uff0c\u975e\u5e38\u611f\u8c22\u4f60\u3002\u975e\u5e38\u611f\u8c22\u4e24\u4f4d\u5973\u58eb\u3002\u6211\u611f\u5230\u975e\u5e38\u8363\u5e78\u80fd\u9080\u8bf7\u4f60\u4eec\u4f60\u4eec\u5728\u8fd9\u91cc\u3002<\/span><\/p>

Maggi Hambling: <\/b>\u8c22\u8c22\uff0c\u8c22\u8c22\uff0c\u8c22\u8c22\u3002\u6211\u5bf9\u8fd9\u4e2a\u8282\u76ee\u611f\u5230\u975e\u5e38\u5174\u594b\u3002<\/span><\/p>





<\/h4>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

\u6797\u660e\u73e0\uff08Pearl Lam\uff09\u4e0e\u8457\u540d\u82f1\u56fd\u827a\u672f\u5bb6\u739b\u5409\u00b7\u6c49\u5e03\u6797\uff08Maggi Hambling\uff09\u5750\u4e0b\u6765\uff0c\u8fdb\u884c\u4e86\u5173\u4e8eMaggi\u751f\u6d3b\u548c\u804c\u4e1a\u751f\u6daf\u7684\u4e00\u6b21\u63ed\u793a\u6027\u8ba8\u8bba\u3002 <\/p>\n

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